Can employers require vaccinations as a condition of returning to work?

AProudLefty said:
It's a conundrum to be certain. However, isn't the reason for the vaccine is to keep one from getting sick from covid?
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Vaccines are to prevent both getting sick and from spreading the disease. The whole herd immunity thing from what I understand. OTOH, some of the interviews I've listened to stated that people can spread the disease until they are fully immune, which can take up to 4(?) weeks after their final vaccination.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Vaccines are to prevent both getting sick and from spreading the disease. The whole herd immunity thing from what I understand. OTOH, some of the interviews I've listened to stated that people can spread the disease until they are fully immune, which can take up to 4(?) weeks after their final vaccination.
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Oh. Well then they'll have to wait until the study is complete.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Can employers require vaccinations as a condition of returning to work? It appears they can although there are a few outs as noted in the link below.

Should they be able to require vaccinations as a condition of employment? It appears that is true too since employers have an obligation to follow employee safety laws and have fiduciary responsibilities to both employees and the company.


https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandto...if-workers-refuse-a-covid-19-vaccination.aspx
As COVID-19 vaccines become available, many employers are asking if they can require employees to get vaccinated, and what they can do if workers refuse. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) weighed in Dec. 16 with new guidance that answers some workplace vaccination questions.

Employers may encourage or possibly require COVID-19 vaccinations, but policies must comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII) and other workplace laws, according to the EEOC.

https://www.rmwbh.com/can-texas-employers-require-employees-to-get-the-covid-19-vaccine/
yes, employers can require that employees be vaccinated once they are widely available. However, there are two main exceptions relating to disabilities and religious objections
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what do you know about work dutch, yea you know how to manipulate the system as a democrat and abuse it no doubt any thing to get out of work hey dutch and sponge off others .
 
Bulletbob said:
what do you know about work dutch, yea you know how to manipulate the system as a democrat and abuse it no doubt any thing to get out of work hey dutch and sponge off others .
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Does your boyfriend give you a Dutch Oven often? Is that why you are so angry?
 
The business should set up shots for the workers. Then they have no excuses. Wouldn't you feel better if you went to a place that all employees had shots?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Can employers require vaccinations as a condition of returning to work?
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The short answer is yes, but the long answer is no.

Vaccines are already required for some employment. It has been legally tested, and is completely legal. If the vaccine prevents the spread, it makes sense to require the vaccine for any job where people are in contact with anyone at risk. It would be much like requiring the influenza vaccine for elder care workers.

In the current environment, good luck to any employer that tries that. It may be legal, and just common sense, but the Alt Right is violent. Any facility they can get their hands on would be burned down. We are looking at more and more right wing terrorists traveling deeper into highly productive Blue States they never felt comfortable in before.
 
Darth Omar said:
Yes, so long as they can be held liable for any down the road side effects from the vaccine.

Which should shut that down in short order.
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If they can be held liable for any down the road side effects, then they will be held liable for any problems anyone goes through. Liability lawyers will always be able to convince juries that any problem is caused by a vaccine. Some idiot shoots himself with a gun, maybe the gunshot was really caused by a vaccine.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, they can’t spread it to vaccinated people.
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There you go spreading misinformation again. Lets use influenza as an example, because it is better understood. Not everyone can get the shot, so unvaccinated healthcare workers can easily spread it to those people. Beyond that, it is about 50% effective in preventing the spread, so every infected person can spread it to about 50% of the vaccinated people. The people which the vaccine are least effective for are people with weak immune systems, so the people who the disease will hit hardest.

In short, an unvaccinated healthcare worker is killing the patients he works with. A vaccinated healthcare worker is protecting the patients he works with.
 
Walt said:
There you go spreading misinformation again. Lets use influenza as an example, because it is better understood. Not everyone can get the shot, so unvaccinated healthcare workers can easily spread it to those people. Beyond that, it is about 50% effective in preventing the spread, so every infected person can spread it to about 50% of the vaccinated people. The people which the vaccine are least effective for are people with weak immune systems, so the people who the disease will hit hardest.

In short, an unvaccinated healthcare worker is killing the patients he works with. A vaccinated healthcare worker is protecting the patients he works with.
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So...no reason to get a flu shot?
 
Darth Omar said:
since they will be immune, post-infection.
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The Brazil strain of Covid-19 is definitely reinfecting people who are supposedly immune, and there is rising evidence that it is happening in America too. The post infection immunity appears to be weak, and fade quickly.
 
Bulletbob said:
what do you know about work dutch, yea you know how to manipulate the system as a democrat and abuse it no doubt any thing to get out of work hey dutch and sponge off others .
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With more and more Alt Right posters complaining that they do not want to do what employers want, I have to wonder if they have ever held a job for more than a day or two.
 
Guille said:
So...no reason to get a flu shot?
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Healthcare workers need to get the flu shot to protect the patients they come into contact with. It provides a wall around the elderly, and sick, that saves lives.

I guess if you do not care about doing a good job, there is no reason to get a flu shot. But, that would be true about any employment requirement.
 
Walt said:
Healthcare workers need to get the flu shot to protect the patients they come into contact with. It provides a wall around the elderly, and sick, that saves lives.

I guess if you do not care about doing a good job, there is no reason to get a flu shot. But, that would be true about any employment requirement.
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Following this line of reasoning they should have all worn N95 masks too...right?
 
Guille said:
Following this line of reasoning they should have all worn N95 masks too...right?
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During flu season, wearing masks around at risk patients has proven very effective in preventing deaths in foreign countries. It is essential with Covid-19.

Are you arguing now that employers cannot require masks of healthcare workers? What next, surgery rooms where healthcare workers refuse to wear masks, gloves, or even wash their hands?
 
Walt said:
During flu season, wearing masks around at risk patients has proven very effective in preventing deaths in foreign countries. It is essential with Covid-19.

Are you arguing now that employers cannot require masks of healthcare workers? What next, surgery rooms where healthcare workers refuse to wear masks, gloves, or even wash their hands?
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No, I was pointing out that you seem to think the shots protect the patient.

BTW, I think you're a pussy who wouldn't know "science" if it jumped up and bit you on the balls.
 
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