Can Heterosexuality be Reversed?

maineman said:
Trust me... He is far from finished with this tapdance....

Actually, he is at a typical DY crossroads. Either he keeps on tapdancing, or he leaves this thread and never returns. I have NEVER seen him admit to an error after even one try at deflection.
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It is an illness. However, somehow I managed to overcome it, and I was arguably much, much worse than DY. It took many years, but I grew up. So perhaps there is hope for him.
 
maineman said:
that it does, but the article states that the Torah was given to Moses by God on Mt. Sinai. For anyone who claims to know anthing about Judaism knows that the Talmud was compiled much later and contains the writings and opinions of thousands of rabbis each interpreting various sections of the Torah. You could score a few style points here by admitting that you typed Talmud when you meant to type Torah. It's an easy mistake to make. But we both know you are incapable of admitting such an error, regardless of how minor... which is why you continue to tapdance.
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And the basis for the Talmud is...
 
Rationalist said:
LOL. The article mentioned doesn't say anything about the Talmud being handed down from Moses. It is painfully clear that you were ignorant on the subject. How does it feel to be schooled by an atheist and a liberal Christian on the subject?
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You mean how does it feel to be purposefully misunderstood by an atheist and a fake Christian? Very familiar.
 
Rationalist said:
DY, it is okay to be wrong. I'm wrong about things all the time. Admitting you got the facts wrong is part of being a mature, functional human being. It also helps you think more critically in the future. Even in normal conversation, I tend to qualify my statements with "as far as I know" or "I could be wrong on this, but I heard..." - unless I am absolutely certain about the validity of my statement.

Of course, that is something that conservatives generally don't do. They don't give a rat's ass about facts. This is one reason that I decided to stop watching Fox News.
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Funny, I have the opposite experience, that being, libs have no facts and never admit they are in error.
 
DamnYankee said:
And the basis for the Talmud is...
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The Talmud is an extensive commentary on the Torah, written by thousands of rabbis over an extended period of time. It was not, as you INCORRECTLY stated, given to Moses, word for word, on Mt. Sinai. You wanted to type Torah, but your brain stumbled a bit and a synapse fired wrong and you ended up typing Talmud instead. We all do it from time to time. The difference between the rest of us and you, however, is that we are perfectly willing to admit an error such as that. You will keep tapdancing and obfuscating and never admit you were wrong. Well... This time, you were wrong. The Talmud was not given, word for word by God to Moses on Mt. Sinai.
 
The Talmud, in fact, mentions many rabbis and scholars, none of whom were even alive prior to the Babylonian captivity.

DY is full of shit.
 
DamnYankee said:
Funny, I have the opposite experience, that being, libs have no facts and never admit they are in error.
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When the fuck are you going to ever provide links, evidence, sources to back up your claims? You can't ask that which you are unwilling or unable to give.
 
Now may be the running away point for DY...

He clearly does his best work when he's part of a posse. One on one, and he slips. Put him up against two or more opponents and he'll eventually slink away.
 
poet said:
Excuse me, but your characterization of who I am and what I am doing, is in your own recalcitrant mind, and no place else. How dare you tell me, a grown man, in his right mind, who I am and what I am doing. And since you are a sinner, like everyone, you hardly are in a position to tell anyone to repent or what they will be facing. Your arrogance is astounding. And given the fact that, today, there are many instances of men seeing visions, imagining themselves as Christ or the messengers of Christ, who most medical professionals would characterize as "delusional" or "psychotic", as if that didn't occur in biblical times, is hardly any reason to suspect that some notions of "divine inspiration" were just psychotic episodes. I am a Christian (Episcopalian, by birth and teaching). Any reference to homosexuality, which then, denoted "temple prostitution" in the Roman provinces, were attributed to Paul, whose misogyny and general disdain for women, point toward his probably repressed homosexuality, which, in and of itself is "hypocritical". Bottom line, there is no "red" text, indicating the very words spoken by Christ, which specifically frowns on homosexuality. Must not have been that pressing. So, go fuck yourself.
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That is exactly what I am talking about, whatever helps you to live in your sin is what you will believe. Even calling the Author of most of the New Testament a repressed homosexual. It's Ok, I don't hate you, but The Bible is clear when it comes to homosexuality, and yes I understand that all sin is equal in God's eyes. I am simply a sinner saved by grace based upon repenting of my sin, and accepting the free gift given by Jesus on the cross. I do believe differently than you when it comes to homosexuality.
 
I am not misrepresenting a thing. Here is exactly what you said:

DamnYankee said:
The Talmud was compiled by people, but handed down word-for-word from Moses, who received it first-hand from God at Mt. Sinai.
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The subject of that sentence is, throughout the construction, "Talmud". There is no implied shift to "Torah". The sentence clearly and unambiguously asserts that the Talmud was word for word from Moses, and that all of those words were received from God, by Moses,on Mt. Sinai.

The first phrase of your sentence is correct. That does not, however, require us to ignore the fact that, beyond that first phrase, the rest of the sentence is total bullshit. The Talmud, written and compiled hundreds of years after the death of Moses, contains specific references to Jewish rabbis and scholars, none of whom were alive when Moses met with God on Mt. Sinai.
Ergo, it did not come word for word from Moses, and God most certainly did not tell Moses all those words - word for word - on the top of the mountain.

Let me give you an analogous sentence:

"The Declaration of Independence was written by Thomas Jefferson, but was inspired by a series of conversations that Tom had with the great Boston Red Sox player, Ted Williams, who had travelled back in time from the 20th century to advise Mr. Jefferson on the content of that historic document."
 
DamnYankee said:
I understand how you've misunderstood me.
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Did you, or did you not say:

"The Talmud was compiled by people, but handed down word-for-word from Moses, who received it first-hand from God at Mt. Sinai."

The Talmud is the "it" after the word "received". Please explain how that is NOT inaccurate.
 
maineman said:
Did you, or did you not say:

"The Talmud was compiled by people, but handed down word-for-word from Moses, who received it first-hand from God at Mt. Sinai."

The Talmud is the "it" after the word "received". Please explain how that is NOT inaccurate.
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I have a different opinion.
 
You have a different opinion about pronouns and the way they work in our language?

Are you saying that, in your sentence that YOU WROTE, the "it" in the final subordinate clause refers to some word OTHER THAN Talmud? If so, please tell us what word it DOES refer to and where that word is in the sentence.
 
And, if you agree that it DOES refer to Talmud, can you explain why God would tell Moses the names of Rabbis that wouldn't be born for 800 years, and where those names were stored for the millennium between Moses hearing them from
God and other rabbis transcribing them into the Talmud?

Or might you finally show just a modicum of humilty FOR ONCE and admit that you meant to type Torah instead of Talmud, which would make your sentence completely accurate.
 
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