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Can You Imagine How Badly It Might Have Gone If Trump* Had Been Elected In 2008?
- Thread starter PoliTalker
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It would have happened with ANY republican elected that year.
dump is too stupid to know what he's doing. He is being directed with "President for dummies" by the republican party.
Had Romney won the same things would be happening, except they would be happening behind closed doors and covered up by the media.
dump is doing exactly what republicans and his racist white supporters want him to do......out in the open!
The next republican president (gawd help us), will do the same things dump is doing.......more undercover.......like Bush!
dump is too stupid to know what he's doing. He is being directed with "President for dummies" by the republican party.
Had Romney won the same things would be happening, except they would be happening behind closed doors and covered up by the media.
dump is doing exactly what republicans and his racist white supporters want him to do......out in the open!
The next republican president (gawd help us), will do the same things dump is doing.......more undercover.......like Bush!
Affordable for millions and care for millions who did not have it before. Bush caused that 10 trill. can you understand graphs? here is the economic one,.https://www.alternet.org/2019/12/th...esponsibility-has-been-completely-demolished/
It wasn't affordable for many because the cheapest plans had a $6,000 deductible.
It would have happened with ANY republican elected that year.
dump is too stupid to know what he's doing. He is being directed with "President for dummies" by the republican party.
Had Romney won the same things would be happening, except they would be happening behind closed doors and covered up by the media.
dump is doing exactly what republicans and his racist white supporters want him to do......out in the open!
The next republican president (gawd help us), will do the same things dump is doing.......more undercover.......like Bush!
Had Romney won in 2008, that would have been a big surprise, since McCain got the nomination.
Mason Melchizedek
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Revised history,FDR saved capitalism from the capitalist!We would have been out and growing again in 18 months or less. Obama like FDR too a bad situation and made it worse.
Mason Melchizedek
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It wasn't affordable for many because the cheapest plans had a $6,000 deductible.
That's on your employer!
Revised history,FDR saved capitalism from the capitalist!
He did nothing. WWII ended his recession.
That's on your employer!
Many people who purchased Obamacare were not insured through their employer. This is the deduction paid by the insured
Mason Melchizedek
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He did nothing. WWII ended his recession.
I don't know where you live,but where I live,the WPA did incredible things,that still help our city,and gave thousands work.
Mason Melchizedek
Verified User
Many people who purchased Obamacare were not insured through their employer. This is the deduction paid by the insured
Oh,I see!
We need Medicare for all!
Mason Melchizedek
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He did nothing. WWII ended his recession.
It was a long time between 1932 and 1941!
I don't know where you live,but where I live,the WPA did incredible things,that still help our city,and gave thousands work.
Yeah if i were you i would change the subject too
It was a long time between 1932 and 1941!
Yes, a long miserable period for the country thanks to FDR
Mason Melchizedek
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Yes, a long miserable period for the country thanks to FDR
Fake history
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Woko Haram,
Actually it appears that what Obama did was the correct approach. Republicans objected to the stimulus and prevented it from being larger. Had it been larger it would have been even more effective that it already was. I do appreciate hearing the conservative perspective about how to correct the economy after capitalism has failed, but any such speculation is subjective and cannot be proved.
UCLA did a study that showed FDR's early policies actually lengthened the Great Depression. He dramatically changed many of his policies in the late 30s, and that's when things actually got better.
It's not that outright austerity is necessarily the answer, but quantitative easing isn't the answer either, nor are bank bailouts.
From Bush through Obama, we experienced a lot of corporate welfare that did not help economic growth.
Actually it appears that what Obama did was the correct approach. Republicans objected to the stimulus and prevented it from being larger. Had it been larger it would have been even more effective that it already was. I do appreciate hearing the conservative perspective about how to correct the economy after capitalism has failed, but any such speculation is subjective and cannot be proved.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Celticguy,
Still with the 'all recessions are alike and thus all have the same simple solution" theory. No consideration for whether it is a mild recession or a deep one.
No. You're cherry-picking and abusing math to support a predetermined view.
Here's an interesting abuse of math:
A full size van gets 12 mpg. It tows a small front wheel drive car that gets 30mpg. In order to cool the gears of the towed vehicle, the engine is left idling during the tow. The van is reduced to 10mpg as it tows. The small car gets about 200 mpg as it is being towed.
Let us compute the average mileage of the two vehicles. 210 mpg / 2 vehicles = 105mpg.
It could be thus be construed that between the two of them, they are getting 105 miles to the gallon. But we know darn well more gas than that is being used.
There is nothing wrong with the math. No errors in the math. It is being misused, 'abused,' if you will.
Every recession that was treated in this way in every country around the world has behaved thusly. None that was treated as JFK did has a far shorter recovery.
Still with the 'all recessions are alike and thus all have the same simple solution" theory. No consideration for whether it is a mild recession or a deep one.
In this country the average including FDR was 18 months. Imagine the statistical impact of eliminating his would have.
You are the one suggesting we imagine what if, im just applying real world knowns which you ignore.
No. You're cherry-picking and abusing math to support a predetermined view.
Here's an interesting abuse of math:
A full size van gets 12 mpg. It tows a small front wheel drive car that gets 30mpg. In order to cool the gears of the towed vehicle, the engine is left idling during the tow. The van is reduced to 10mpg as it tows. The small car gets about 200 mpg as it is being towed.
Let us compute the average mileage of the two vehicles. 210 mpg / 2 vehicles = 105mpg.
It could be thus be construed that between the two of them, they are getting 105 miles to the gallon. But we know darn well more gas than that is being used.
There is nothing wrong with the math. No errors in the math. It is being misused, 'abused,' if you will.
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Fake history
Real life for my family and millions others.
Hello Celticguy,
Still with the 'all recessions are alike and thus all have the same simple solution" theory. No consideration for whether it is a mild recession or a deep one.
No. You're cherry-picking and abusing math to support a predetermined view.
Here's an interesting abuse of math:
A full size van gets 12 mpg. It tows a small front wheel drive car that gets 30mpg. In order to cool the gears of the towed vehicle, the engine is left idling during the tow. The van is reduced to 10mpg as it tows. The small car gets about 200 mpg as it is being towed.
Let us compute the average mileage of the two vehicles. 210 mpg / 2 vehicles = 105mpg.
It could be thus be construed that between the two of them, they are getting 105 miles to the gallon. But we know darn well more gas than that is being used.
There is nothing wrong with the math. No errors in the math. It is being misused, 'abused,' if you will.
How is it cherrypicking when i clearly divide those addressed with Keyesian aporoaches and all others ?
Mason Melchizedek
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Real life for my family and millions others.
I know,you didn't want FDR,you wanted Hitler!
Sieg Heil motherfucker
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Celticguy,
Because you have a predetermined result that you want to see as the outcome. You begin by establishing an absolute: 'conservative solutions are always best.' Then you search for facts which support that, rejecting all others which do not.
How is it cherrypicking when i clearly divide those addressed with Keyesian aporoaches and all others ?
Because you have a predetermined result that you want to see as the outcome. You begin by establishing an absolute: 'conservative solutions are always best.' Then you search for facts which support that, rejecting all others which do not.