Canada, Mexico Steelmakers Refuse New US Orders

[tigerred59]

 

[EdwinA]

Nope. Quoting leftist propaganda won't work. Steel making in the United States uses blast furnaces, since they produce better yield and quality.

Nope, the facts are facts, and there are multiple sources. Just because you don't like one doesn't make the facts change. And the few still using coal are being phased out. The issue now is the need for more power plants, and using more natural gas.

 

[tigerred59]

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Some steelmakers in Canada and Mexico are telling customers that they are refusing new orders to the US on concerns that President Donald Trump soon will reimpose duties.

Canada’s Stelco has been telling US-based consumers it is pausing sales quotes, according to a person familiar with the matter. Mexico-based steel suppliers also stopped taking orders for material this week as they await potential action from Trump, according to Flack Global Metals, a large buyer.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/canada-mexico-steelmakers-refuse-us-171330059.html

Well, this ought to put a pause on the manufacture of those hated-by-the-MAGATs EVs, eh? Too bad it will also curtail the making of new gas powered vehicles as well. Collateral damage... tsk. What will #PresidentMusk do about this? How will he build his rockets and his Teslas now? lol

 

[Into the Night]

ok at this point you are just unashamedly lying because you got caught thinking mini-mills are integrated steel mills

Word games won't work. An integrated mill is just a mill that also manufactures pig iron on the same site.
There are over a hundred steel mills in the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

its is not sound currency.

gold is a commodity, used to back currencies, sound currencies.

it;s a super conductor that does not corrode.

So you don't know what backs gold as a currency?
Are you saying a currency backs itself??

Gold is not a superconductor. Gold can corrode in the presence of some acids or when used as a plating electrode. That's how gold plating works!

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

So you don't know what backs gold as a currency?
Are you saying a currency backs itself??

Gold is not a superconductor.

gold is not a currency.

its is a commodity.

its a supercondutor that does not corrode.

 

[Into the Night]

Well, this ought to put a pause on the manufacture of those hated-by-the-MAGATs EVs, eh? Too bad it will also curtail the making of new gas powered vehicles as well. Collateral damage... tsk. What will #PresidentMusk do about this? How will he build his rockets and his Teslas now? lol

Same way as always. Steel...from the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope, the facts are facts, and there are multiple sources.

Not a fact.

Just because you don't like one doesn't make the facts change.

Not a fact.

And the few still using coal are being phased out.

Coal is still being used by a lot of steel mills. It also provides the source of carbon to make the alloy.

The issue now is the need for more power plants, and using more natural gas.

There are already sufficient power plants in the United States. The only region with insufficient power generating capacity in all of the continental North America is the SDTC.

Natural gas is already being used by many steel mills. It is also a source of the carbon they need to make the alloy.

Steel mills use the source of energy most available to them in their area, whether it's coal or natural gas.

 

[tigerred59]

Well, this ought to put a pause on the manufacture of those hated-by-the-MAGATs EVs, eh? Too bad it will also curtail the making of new gas powered vehicles as well. Collateral damage... tsk. What will #PresidentMusk do about this? How will he build his rockets and his Teslas now? lol

Trump is hurting the very people who voted for his dumb ass.

 

[tigerred59]

Trump always hurt the one's he love....LOL

 

[tigerred59]

Trump will go after everything he thinks poor blacks use, everything but the white man's welfare, ie Social Security Disability.

 

[tigerred59]

The Steven Miller/Mush puppet thinks demolishing the federal income tax and using foreign generated tarriff money instead is gonna be a good idea. I got a raise in my SS and all my co pays and RX increased in price....LOL

 

[SlaveForChrist]

Word games won't work. An integrated mill is just a mill that also manufactures pig iron on the same site.
There are over a hundred steel mills in the United States.

finally decided to Google and start to figure out what the fuck you're talking about, it seems. those "hundreds of steel mills" you are talking about use pig iron manufactured elsewhere and scrap that they recycle.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

finally decided to Google and start to figure out what the fuck you're talking about, it seems. those "hundreds of steel mills" you are talking about use pig iron manufactured elsewhere and scrap that they recycle.

we can build new ones from scratch.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Trump is hurting the very people who voted for his dumb ass.

Yep. Like everyone he's done business with, several wives, friends, attorneys, etc. -- once he's gotten what he wanted, they're expendable.

 

[Tbird19482]

Trump always hurt the one's he love....LOLView attachment 41857

No Trump isn't hurting the people he loves, Why would he hurt himself?
That is the ONLY person he loves .
He is hurting his followers and a lot of other Americans.
Trump is ONLY out for Trump and could give a shit about everybody else.

 

[EdwinA]

Not a fact.

Not a fact.

Both are well documented facts.

Coal is still being used by a lot of steel mills. It also provides the source of carbon to make the alloy.

Not by the majority of steel mills in the U.S., and soon not by blast furnaces.

There are already sufficient power plants in the United States. The only region with insufficient power generating capacity in all of the continental North America is the SDTC.

Natural gas is already being used by many steel mills. It is also a source of the carbon they need to make the alloy.

Steel mills use the source of energy most available to them in their area, whether it's coal or natural gas.

No, there isn't; Electric arc furnaces need more power plants to replace the old coal plants.

NAtural gas and hydrogen are replacing coal already in Sweden and soon everywhere.

Steel mills use whatever they want to use when available, and most modern countries are replacing coal fired anything. That is much easier to implement when on-shored, and when those are online the old coal fired plants overseas will dwindle.

 

[EdwinA]

finally decided to Google and start to figure out what the fuck you're talking about, it seems. those "hundreds of steel mills" you are talking about use pig iron manufactured elsewhere and scrap that they recycle.

The majority of plants in the U.S. do; overseas is an entirely different story. Red China alone is building over 40 new coal fired plants; Indonesia, India, Viet Nam, are building more.

Texas is the largest coal user in the U.S., not steel makers. Power plants are the biggest users, and those are gradually going away.

U.S. coal energy consumption by state | Statista

Texas is the largest coal energy consuming state in the U.S., using some 926 trillion British thermal units worth in 2022 in the electric power sector.

www.statista.com

Coal plants provided some 40% of power in 2014, it was down around 20% in 2022 and falling. The last coal fired plant was brought online in 2013, and no news ones have been planned. The govt. claims it's only 10% or so; pick one.

U.S. coal energy consumption 2023 | Statista

Coal consumption within the electric power sector in the United States fell to 387.17 million short tons in 2023.

www.statista.com