Canada, Mexico Steelmakers Refuse New US Orders

finally decided to Google and start to figure out what the fuck you're talking about, it seems. those "hundreds of steel mills" you are talking about use pig iron manufactured elsewhere and scrap that they recycle.
Recyclers provide some of the raw material, yes. The pig iron is produced by either the mines themselves or by a facility nearby. A few steel mills also make the pig iron.
 
The majority of plants in the U.S. do;
Do what?
overseas is an entirely different story. Red China alone is building over 40 new coal fired plants; Indonesia, India, Viet Nam, are building more.
So?
Texas is the largest coal user in the U.S., not steel makers. Power plants are the biggest users, and those are gradually going away.
They are not going away.

Coal plants provided some 40% of power in 2014, it was down around 20% in 2022 and falling. The last coal fired plant was brought online in 2013, and no news ones have been planned. The govt. claims it's only 10% or so; pick one.

Argument from randU fallacy. Pivot fallacy. The topic is about US steel mills, not power plants. Remember, fascism has been attempting to force wind power and solar power.

Coal is not 'dirty'. It can be burned quite cleanly.
 
Do what?

So?

They are not going away.

Argument from randU fallacy. Pivot fallacy. The topic is about US steel mills, not power plants. Remember, fascism has been attempting to force wind power and solar power.

Coal is not 'dirty'. It can be burned quite cleanly.

The topic is coal use, and you don't have a case either way. The majority of steel produced here doesn't use coal, and thst is used is going away due to new technology. Your fallacy fallacy isn't relevant or correct.
 
No Trump isn't hurting the people he loves, Why would he hurt himself?
That is the ONLY person he loves .
He is hurting his followers and a lot of other Americans.
Trump is ONLY out for Trump and could give a shit about everybody else.
I said once in previous post, the only way to stop Trump come from the people. Right now its all a word salad of cuts....but two things bring sleeping giants to their heels, fucking with a man's money and taking away free shit....you do that to the American Stupid, trust and believe all hell will break lose.1738186603788.png
 
I said once in previous post, the only way to stop Trump come from the people. Right now its all a word salad of cuts....but two things bring sleeping giants to their heels, fucking with a man's money and taking away free shit....you do that to the American Stupid, trust and believe all hell will break lose.View attachment 41990
Well I was just reading this and as it says a lot of Americans do not realize how much electric we buy from Canada, and they could shut it off and do some real serious harm to this country.
As it is IF Trump puts his 25% tariffs on Canada it will drive up the cost of electric these American people need.
 
Well I was just reading this and as it says a lot of Americans do not realize how much electric we buy from Canada, and they could shut it off and do some real serious harm to this country.
As it is IF Trump puts his 25% tariffs on Canada it will drive up the cost of electric these American people need.
Here is some of the article
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration website, the states that use Canadian electricity are New York, including New York City, the Upper Midwest states of North Dakota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota, as well as most of New England, including Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire.
 
Here is some of the article According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration website, the states that use Canadian electricity are New York, including New York City, the Upper Midwest states of North Dakota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota, as well as most of New England, including Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire.


Should I be worried?
 
Some idiot actually claimed we depend on Canada for electricity? lol that's hilarious.


For the better part of two decades, Canada has exported significantly more electricity to the United States than it imported. However, in the fall of 2023, electricity trade between the two countries became more balanced. The shift was due partly to Canada’s reduced hydropower generation, the country’s primary source of electricity generation, as drought conditions reduced inflow to reservoirs in western Canada. In addition, lower natural gas prices in the United States reduced power prices, making U.S. electricity more competitive.


Monthly average exports from the United States to Canada in 2023 increased 70% on a year-over-year basis to 1,809 gigawatthours (GWh), while monthly average imports from Canada to the United States decreased by 36% to 3,315 GWh. In 2023, the United States remained a net importer of Canada’s power on an annual basis, but the amount of electricity received fell sharply from 42 terawatthours (TWh) in 2022 to 15 TWh in 2023. The decline in imports from Canada was large enough that by September 2023 the United States switched to become a net electricity exporter to Canada, which continued for five of the next nine months, according to EIA’s Quarterly Electricity Imports and Exports Report.


Electricity exchanges across the United States and Canada—historically each other’s largest electricity trading partners—remain relatively small, representing less than 1% of their respective total generation.


14 TWhs can be produced by two nuclear power plants; a typical nuke plant produces about 7.9 TWh. per year.
 
Here is some of the article
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration website, the states that use Canadian electricity are New York, including New York City, the Upper Midwest states of North Dakota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota, as well as most of New England, including Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire.

How many of those states banned nuclear power plants or have restricted new construction of nuclear plants? lol tough shit, let them buy candles.
 
1738194674465.pngIf you are a fan of SNL, than Trump's white house briefs and his press conferences are the way to go for good ol fashion laughs, cause nothing about either is news worthy!!
 
How many of those states banned nuclear power plants or have restricted new construction of nuclear plants? lol tough shit, let them buy candles.
I really don't care that is their problem , point is they buy their electric from Canada and when Trump puts his tariffs on the price will be going up at least the amount of the tariffs and that will hit them in the pocket book,
And if the Canadians shut it down like they are talking , and all it has to be is a week or 10 days it could cost us Billions in spoiled food, no Computers, no cell phones , no anything that runs on electric unless they have their own generator then that would only last till their fuel ran out.
People won't be able to work. and that will hit them in the pocket book too.
My point was again IF Trump puts his tariffs on not only will it drive the cost of that power up IF the Canadians shut it down it could cost us Billions and Billions .
Heck it could even run us into a deep recession more like a depression.
 
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