Challenging Hume to a Debate #2 - Physics of the Global Warming Faith : Is Greenhouse Effect Even Possible?

[IBDaMann]

"and you are asking why the atmosphere acts as radiator fluid, right?"

I am asking what component/characteristics, etc makes up the atmosphere that keeps the high temps lower AND the low temps higher AND how does that component (those components if they are different) perform that function.

The high temperatures aren't any lower than they should bem and the low temperatures aren't any higher than they should be. You're playing a bunch of word games here and I have no idea what you are asking in this question.

Are you asking what components of the radiator fluid make the radiator fluid act like radiator fluid? That's what your question sounds like. Would you mind terribly fixing all the ambiguities in your question?

 

[IBDaMann]

Without an atmosphere containing greenhouse gases the surface of the earth

Full stop. You don't know what "the surface" means.

Should I even bother to keep reading?

... would average about 30degC lower than it does now.

Too funny. There is no subjunctive in science. I should have stopped reading back when I first had the chance.

 

[ZenMode]

The high temperatures aren't any lower than they should bem and the low temperatures aren't any higher than they should be. You're playing a bunch of word games here and I have no idea what you are asking in this question.

Are you asking what components of the radiator fluid make the radiator fluid act like radiator fluid? That's what your question sounds like. Would you mind terribly fixing all the ambiguities in your question?

Nope. Sorry. Play time is over. No backtracking and playing dumb now.

As you said "We recognize that the atmosphere makes it so much cooler and prevents the ocean from boiling away, and you are asking why the atmosphere acts as radiator fluid, right?"

So stop with the idiotic word games:

"The high temperatures aren't any lower than they should bem and the low temperatures aren't any higher than they should be..."

So the high temperatures are what they are. Brilliant!!

I'm asking how the atmosphere, specifically what component(s) of the atmosphere, has the impact on temperatures that YOU already agreed they do.

Try again Mr. Tap Dancer.

 

[IBDaMann]

I'm asking how the atmosphere, specifically what component(s) of the atmosphere, has the impact on temperatures that YOU already agreed they do.

Incorrect. You are not talking about the average global equilibrium temperature (singular); you are talking about countless "temperatures" (plural) that are constnatly in flux ... so I haven't the vaguest idea what you are babbling about.

You are also asking about seemingly fictitious "components" of the atmosphere. When I try to get clarification, you shut that down immediately because you understand that there are no such "components" with the magical superpowers to accomplish the physics violations of your religion. If this is the case, do not answer these following questions:

* What components of radiator fluid cause the radiator fluid to act as radiator fluid?
* What components of ink cause ink to act as ink?
* What components of visible light photons make visible light photons visible?

 

[ZenMode]

Incorrect. You are not talking about the average global equilibrium temperature (singular); you are talking about countless "temperatures" (plural) that are constnatly in flux ... so I haven't the vaguest idea what you are babbling about.

You are also asking about seemingly fictitious "components" of the atmosphere. When I try to get clarification, you shut that down immediately because you understand that there are no such "components" with the magical superpowers to accomplish the physics violations of your religion. If this is the case, do not answer these following questions:

* What components of radiator fluid cause the radiator fluid to act as radiator fluid?
* What components of ink cause ink to act as ink?
* What components of visible light photons make visible light photons visible?

Trying again.... playtime is over.

We agree that the high temperature on Earth, during any given 24 hour orbit of the sun, would be SIGNIFICANTLY higher if not for the Earth's atmosphere.

How does the atmosphere make that happen? In other words, what is the atmosphere made of, which of those components keeps the high temperatures lower than they otherwise would be and how do those components make that happen?

 

[AProudLefty]

Full stop. You don't know what "the surface" means.

Should I even bother to keep reading?


Too funny. There is no subjunctive in science. I should have stopped reading back when I first had the chance.

You really don't know what the surface means?

 

[Kafka]

Full stop. You don't know what "the surface" means.

Now your shitposts aren't even making sense. Seriously dude give it a rest. You are just an annoying ass.

Should I even bother to keep reading?

You wouldn't understand it.

Too funny. There is no subjunctive in science. I should have stopped reading back when I first had the chance.

What is your game? You seem really fucked up. Your posts are all bluster and bluff and anyone with a college degree KNOWS is 100% bullshit. Maybe you are hoping to fool the dimbulbs? That's kind of pathetic. Seriously. That's just SAD.

Grow up. Talk like an adult. BE an adult.

 

[IBDaMann]

You really don't know what the surface means?

I know what the "surface" is. Obtenebrator does not and apparently you don't either.

 

[IBDaMann]

Now your shitposts aren't even making sense.

That's why you should learn some science ... at least the fundamentals.

Seriously dude give it a rest. You are just an annoying ass.

I'm happy to annoy you. Shit-for-brains, such as you, know next to nothing, and one of the precious few things that you have memorized is that your only chance for success in any debate is to try to bully and intimidate others because you can't possibly persuade anyone with information.

Your post has no content to which to respond. You don't even know what the "surface" is, and it's a core concept in what you are trying to argue. This just shows that you've got nothing going on upstairs, but are simply regurgitating what your thought-masters have ordered you to believe.

 

[IBDaMann]

You really don't know what the surface means?

You really need to sue the people responsible for ensuring you received a somewhat decent education. They injured you.

 

[IBDaMann]

Trying again.... playtime is over.

I hope so.

We agree that the high temperature on Earth, during any given 24 hour orbit of the sun, would be SIGNIFICANTLY higher if not for the Earth's atmosphere.

Nope. We agree that Earth's highest temperature would not change if the atmosphere were removed. We've already covered this and you have acknowledged this. It seems like someone has ordered you to believe something stupid and you are OBEYING.

 

[IBDaMann]

Your posts are all bluster and bluff and anyone with a college degree KNOWS is 100% bullshit.

Perhaps you should stick to only speaking for you, and not pretending to speak for others who have college degrees. You'll have plenty of time to get your college education after you graduate from junior high and high school.

 

[AProudLefty]

You really need to sue the people responsible for ensuring you received a somewhat decent education. They injured you.

My education is fine.

 

[AProudLefty]

I know what the "surface" is. Obtenebrator does not and apparently you don't either.

So explain it.

 

[IBDaMann]

My education is fine.

Of course it is. You don't even know how to figure out the correct person to whom to respond. If you manage to get lucky and address your question/comment to the correct poster, you quickly show that you do not understand the content being discussed.

Considering how your "educators" have scarred you for life, you could get a huge settlement.

 

[IBDaMann]

So explain it.

Address your question to the correct person. Hint: I'm not the one who doesn't know what the "surface" is.

 

[ZenMode]

I hope so.


Nope. We agree that Earth's highest temperature would not change if the atmosphere were removed. We've already covered this and you have acknowledged this. It seems like someone has ordered you to believe something stupid and you are OBEYING.

The tap dancing continues... No backtracking now because surely you aren't so ignorant as to believe that the high and low temperatures on Earth would be unchanged if there was no atmosphere, so feel free to stop playing dumb.

This is what you already said.

We recognize that the atmosphere makes it so much cooler and prevents the ocean from boiling away, and you are asking why the atmosphere acts as radiator fluid, right?

 

[IBDaMann]

The tap dancing continues...

I pity you. You are relegated to blaming others for your ignorance. Your inability to understand is somehow my "tap dancing." Nothing will ever change until you learn what you need to know and understand. That is never going to happen as long as you try to pretend that you are some sort of science genius who is going to correct all of those who know so much more than he does.

Your world must be a frightful one.

No backtracking now

I'm not going to bother trying to teach you anything until you start being a better student. If you would prefer, I can just sit back and mock you all day. Just let me know what you want.

because surely you aren't so ignorant as to believe that the high and low temperatures on Earth would be unchanged if there was no atmosphere,

Let's begin mocking you, shall we? Yes, we most certainly shall.

Apparently you are so ignorant as to believe that the side of the International Space Station that faces the sun never gets very, very hot ... just like the top of the atmosphere facing the sun, which is where you will find the highest temperature on earth. And here you are flat out denying that the atmosphere has a "top" that gets very, very hot. Precious! I suppose you are going to tell us that earth's atmosphere extends outward infinitely into deep space to explain why it has no "top!" Too funny! What a moron!

I like this. Do you have any more science genius to bestow upon JPP?

so feel free to stop playing dumb.

Feel free to keep being dumb.

 

[Kafka]

My education is fine.

This is all a game for IBDamann. I honestly don't understand why some people can be so easily entertained by simply annoying the shit out of everyone else.

 

[ZenMode]

I pity you. You are relegated to blaming others for your ignorance. Your inability to understand is somehow my "tap dancing." Nothing will ever change until you learn what you need to know and understand. That is never going to happen as long as you try to pretend that you are some sort of science genius who is going to correct all of those who know so much more than he does.

Your world must be a frightful one.



I'm not going to bother trying to teach you anything until you start being a better student. If you would prefer, I can just sit back and mock you all day. Just let me know what you want.


Let's begin mocking you, shall we? Yes, we most certainly shall.

Apparently you are so ignorant as to believe that the side of the International Space Station that faces the sun never gets very, very hot ... just like the top of the atmosphere facing the sun, which is where you will find the highest temperature on earth. And here you are flat out denying that the atmosphere has a "top" that gets very, very hot. Precious! I suppose you are going to tell us that earth's atmosphere extends outward infinitely into deep space to explain why it has no "top!" Too funny! What a moron!

I like this. Do you have any more science genius to bestow upon JPP?


Feel free to keep being dumb.

Great! International Space Station. How hot (sunny side) and how cold (shady side) does the ISS get, since it has no atmosphere to protect it?