Challenging Hume to a Debate #2 - Physics of the Global Warming Faith : Is Greenhouse Effect Even Possible?

[Yakuda]

No. I'm saying that we already know that the atmosphere directly impacts temperatures on earth. There's a reason overnight temperatures aren't -200 degrees... that reason is the atmosphere.

Impacts but doesn't control

 

[ZenMode]

Impacts but doesn't control

What's the difference?

 

[Into the Night]

It's clearly false. The atmosphere already changes temperatures on Earth.

The atmosphere cannot change the temperature of the Earth, Void. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. You can't create energy out of nothing.

Without the atmosphere, the high temps would be 100+ degrees higher and the low temperatures would be 100+ degrees lower.

Not the temperature of the Earth, Void. You are making up numbers as well. Argument from randU fallacy. Attempted proof by contrivance.

 

[Into the Night]

What's the difference?

The atmosphere is not a thermostat, Void. It has no capability to warm the Earth.
No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again.

 

[ZenMode]

The atmosphere is not a thermostat, Void. It has no capability to warm the Earth.
No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again.

You're welcome to deny all the science you want.....

The atmosphere impacts temperatures on Earth. Period. No amount of your denial and tap dancing will change that.

 

[Into the Night]

You're welcome to deny all the science you want.....

You are describing yourself, Void. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ME OR ANYBODY ELSE!

The atmosphere impacts temperatures on Earth. Period. No amount of your denial and tap dancing will change that.

You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. The denial of science is YOURS. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ANYBODY ELSE!

 

[ZenMode]

You are describing yourself, Void. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ME OR ANYBODY ELSE!

You are ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics again. The denial of science is YOURS. DON'T TRY TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEM ON ANYBODY ELSE!

You realize that the existence, or non-existence, of an atmosphere changes nothing regarding the energy coming from the Sun, don't you?

Really.....you just can't be this obtuse.

 

[Into the Night]

You realize that the existence, or non-existence, of an atmosphere changes nothing regarding the energy coming from the Sun, don't you?

Really.....you just can't be this obtuse.

I'm not claiming the atmosphere warms the Earth. YOU ARE.

 

[Kafka]

you just can't be this obtuse.

HOW DARE YOU limit Into! Into is INDEED that obtuse and probably way more!

Why do you people always try to clip the soaring eagle's wings?

 

[ZenMode]

I'm not claiming the atmosphere warms the Earth. YOU ARE.

I’m claiming what is known to be true - the atmosphere keeps high temps lower and low temps higher. It does this day after day, regardless of any sun energy variations and regardless of your word games, dishonesty, avoiding etc.

 

[AProudLefty]

Don't try to pivot. No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth.

Nobody claimed that. Grow up.