APP - Christians on Healthcare Reform

Ted Haggard said:
Honestly, Mr. Midcan, I’m uncomfortable with Obama’s socialist death panels. I can’t support death panels, as a Christian. I believe in the culture of life.

I really don’t think we need socialist healthcare here. I’ve found that prayer is ALWAYS the best medicine. And if I need cheap prescription drugs, I just jet across the border to Canada or Mexico and hook myself up. Problem solved!

So, unless Obama’s socialist government insurance covers sensual massage therapy sessions, or gay conversion consultation, I can’t support it as a God-fearing Christian.



God Bless,

Ted
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Ted does include your X? You are one great poster!
 
froggie said:
Good point and they don't want others to have this same option?

Back to the haves and have nots! Them and us...divide and conquer or concur?
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I think everyone should pay for their own insurance....help people with the money to do it, if they need it, but engage them in the process of buying it......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I think everyone should pay for their own insurance....help people with the money to do it, if they need it, but engage them in the process of buying it......
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I don't disagree with that to a certain point, but it is just how to help them with the money part that screws us up, right?
 
As I have been saying for years, the cons want to route tax money to private enterprise since they have pretty much saturated the market on consumers so to speak.

Buy your insurance but help you to buy it.
 
midcan5 said:
Why do conservatives find it necessary to make any excuse for not helping their fellow man? Whether it be clean air, minimum wage, social security, or welfare, they always manage to see the hole. Consider we all live for this brief moment and then are gone forever, why waste the moment, do something, and preferably do something good for all.

from the letter:

"But for almost that many years, I have been growing more and more deeply troubled by the way so many from my heritage in conservative Christianity – in its evangelical, charismatic, and Roman Catholic streams – have allowed themselves to be spiritually formed by various conservative political and economic ideologies. It’s been disturbing to see how many Christians have begun to follow and trust leaders who live more by political/media/ideological codes than by moral/spiritual/biblical ones.

As a result, I sometimes think that Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Fox News may now influence many conservative evangelicals, charismatics, and Catholics more than Billy Graham, Rick Warren, T.D. Jakes, Pope Benedict, or even the four gospels.

Now in a free country, people certainly have the right to choose their ideology. But Christians of all sorts, I think we all can agree, have a special calling – to increasingly harmonize our lives (including our lives as citizens) with the teaching and example of Jesus. My concern is that many of my sisters and brothers, without realizing it, have begun seeing Jesus and the faith through the lens of a neo-conservative political framework, thus reducing their vision of Jesus and his essential message of the kingdom of God. As a result, too many of us are becoming more and more zealous conservatives, but less and less Christ-like Christians, and many don’t seem to notice the difference.

Thankfully, many Christian leaders are far more thoughtful and nuanced in their integration of faith and public life. They don’t jump on talk-radio’s latest conspiracy theory bandwagons, nor do they buy flippant talk of “death panels” or inappropriate comparisons to Hitler and so on. But still, so many of them remain silent about what’s going on, and thereby grant it tacit approval."
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Many christians have abandoned organized churches precisely because of the thoughtful and NUANCED (anti-human) positions of modern church leadership.

they're all paid off masonic shills for the New world order. They learned about jesus from Bazooka Joe.
 
froggie said:
I don't disagree with that to a certain point, but it is just how to help them with the money part that screws us up, right?
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not that I know of...we've always helped people in this country who didn't have enough money.....the only problem I'm aware of is the plan to completely restructure the health insurance industry.....have you seen anyone suggest that we just help poor people pay their bills?......I haven't........
 
AssHatZombie said:
Many christians have abandoned organized churches precisely because of the thoughtful and NUANCED (anti-human) positions of modern church leadership.

they're all paid off masonic shills for the New world order. They learned about jesus from Bazooka Joe.
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Its great gum, though, you gotta give it that.
 
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