Saint Guinefort
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If only you knew what you were arguing against this all would make more sense to you.
You got so much wrong in that post it's kind of sobering.
Climate Change - Yet another UN report
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If only you knew what you were arguing against this all would make more sense to you.
You got so much wrong in that post it's kind of sobering.
The Mayan and Aztec empires never invented the wheel.
This was one of the factors that caused the Aztecs to fall to the Spainards. The speed with which the Conquistador army could move was driven by wheeled carts carrying provisions, the Aztecs moved their supply lines on the backs of slaves. Without the wheel, the Metzoamerican people never domesticated beasts of burden. Horses and wheeled carts made Cortez and his men impossible for Aztec raiders to keep up with.
The Aztecs beset them when they were hundreds of miles from Tenochtitlan, with the intent of murdering them, raping the indigenous women, taking slaves, and of course sacrifices. But the native people had warned the Spaniards of an evil empire that spread terror across the land. When the Aztecs attacked, Cortez and his men were ready. The Spaniards were culturally and technologically superior to the Aztecs. The match lock muskets they had were of little use, but they had two critical elements - Steel and the Wheel. The Aztecs moved all goods on the backs of slaves, carts drawn by horses were something they had never encountered. The Spaniards could move fast. The Aztec slaving parties attacked Cortez 7 times as they marched to Tenochtitlan, and thousands of freed slaves joined Cortez, grateful to be saved from the brutal and savage Aztecs.
Unable to capture the Spaniards as slaves, the Priest Caste convinced the brutal dictator Montezuma that the Spaniards were gods. When the Asians had invaded America and engaged in genocide of the original inhabitants, those inhabitants were a negroid people similar to Australian aborigines, they had beards. The priests pointed to drawings of gods based on these (Olmec most likely) people. Though anyone can look at surviving drawing and clearly see they were black people, the Aztecs focused only on the beards and declared that Cortez and his men were gods.
Emperor Montezuma decided to appease these gods, since he couldn't subdue and enslave them. Cortez writes that the entertainment started with a game similar to our modern basketball. The losing team was executed to the delight of the Emperor. Then before the feast, Montezuma had 300 infants brought out and slaughtered (a democrats dream!). At that point Cortez wrote, he decided that such monstrous evil could not be allowed in the world.
This used to be widely taught, but those who seek to alter history have changed facts for fiction to preach their hatred of white Europeans.
Got it.
So "I got everything wrong," you just can't quite articulate what it is. BUT it would be refreshing to see you sober for a change...
Saint Guinefort
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WOuld you really like me to list the errors for you? I can do that, but normally it's a waste of time with people like you. Let me know and I'll list 'em out for you.
Did you quote the wrong person? My post was about the fact that the US has decreased their output of CO2 and had nothing to do with actual temp increase.
You are either unable to comprehend what you read and respond to it, or simply quoted the wrong person. My post does not say what you are responding to here. It just is not what you think it is.
Yeah. This post was full of fail, you "answered" opinions I have never expressed, accused me of believing things I never said I believed, then went on to dismiss nothing at all of what I actually stated and missed that I am simply pointing out data sets and not making any guesses or suggestion of guesses as to what they mean for a future earth.
I'd say you quoted the wrong post but you parsed it and pretended to "respond" to things I said that were not there.
Go for it.
You can't list "errors," you can only whine that I strayed from the stict dogma of your cult.
Saint Guinefort
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OK, here you go:
The numbers aren't bullshit. (Or you would show how they are bullshit, which you can't).
Literally NO ONE says there is a "proper climate". Just the current climate. When you change it really fast you induce problems. Things we can't adapt to fast enough.
Let's see how well you operate and how "rich" you are when the agriculture in your area collapses.
That was easy.
Into the Night
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No point, since your 'list' itself is errors.
Saint Guinefort
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Not your circus. You are still struggling with knowing who Richard Lindzen is.
Into the Night
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Attempted negative proof fallacy. No, YOU have to justify the numbers, dumbass. Negative proofs are NOT required or even sensible.
You do.
You just did it again.
Climate cannot change. Weather changes. Weather changes every day. Did you know that every day temperature ranges over 10 deg F or more? Did you know that every year temperature ranges over up to 100 deg F or more? Did you know that sometimes it rains, and sometimes it doesn't?
People adapt to changing weather just fine. Even living with storms, lightning, hurricanes, snow and ice, baking hot weather, etc.
Did you know that farmers routinely handle crops in these widely varying conditions. They feed the world with 'em too.
You're an idiot.
Into the Night
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Mantra 40a. YOU posted in a public forum. This is not personal mail.
Into the Night
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To a certain extent, allow me to apologize. Please understand that IBDaMann has been dealing with religious idiots in the Church of Global Warming for quite some time. When you mentioned CO2 measurement, he went off on his usual rant about temperature.
But also be aware, that it is not possible to measure the global atmospheric CO2 concentration. CO2 is not uniformly distributed in the atmosphere. It is also not possible to measure how much CO2 any nation is putting out. CO2 doesn't have a tag on it that designates 'where it came from'.
It is claiming knowledge of this value (which can't be measured) that set him off.
IBDaMann
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I did not. You revealed your central focus on CO2 emissions in a thread about "Climate." You did not make your post with the intention of infusing meaningless random trivia into this thread. You made your ost because you are just another scientifically illiterate climate lemming who thinks that CO2 somehow affects Climate as a greenhouse gas. This is the scientifically illiterate line of reasoning I mentioned.
Now I know you are dishonest as well.
Yes, I quoted you and your "reduction in CO2 emissions" crap. This is completely without any meaning in science except as a reduction in global plant food. Instead of admitting that there is no point for "CO2 emission reductions" to even occur to any rational adult, you knee-jerked a defensive posture to somehow blame me for your confusion and your gullibility.
Go back to school. Get an education. If you want to jump down my throat then great, let's dance.
IBDaMann
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Understand that Damocles is a Climate lemming who believes that CO2 emissions are negatively affecting Climate, that if we don't do something about China, all our work to reduce greenhouse gas emissions will be for naught, and that he is omniscient about the sum totals of global CO2 emissions. If you try to remind him that he is not omniscient and that he is being gullible believing the fabricated numbers he is handed and told to believe, he simply responds that "it's true whether you like it or not." He simply regurgitates what he is told to repeat, he is certain that what he is told to regurgitate must therefore be true and now he is trying to blame me for his becoming a mindless Climate undead.
Correct. Well that and his insistence that I operate under his false axiom that CO2 emissions are somehow affecting Climate ... and therefore we had better do something about China.
He wants to bring it on over this. I say "Let him."