Clinton v. McCain, within the margin of error!
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If I were a Dem and able to vote in the Dem primary, I'd probably do the same.
I'm thinking of the general though. If it really does shake out as Clinton vs. McCain, I'm actually likely to vote Clinton. Kind of weird, since I actually like her less than I liked Gore, but that's politics for you.
Oh yeah, no defintely I'm with you there. Under no circumstances would I vote for McCain, and if he were running against a Bush, I guess suicide would be an option.
I'll tell you Ornot though, I do not see McCain as the giant he once appeared. In fact, if you take the crazies out of the equation, I would say that Hagel would have it in an absolute walk, and I bet if you polled only Republican moderates and Republican leaning independents, it would be Hagel. So that primary is going to one very interesting show. We'll see if the nutbase gets their way this time around.
klaatu
Fusionist
Does there? Why? If neither of the major candidates represent my views to any great extent, I can either vote third party, as I usually do, or use my vote in support of one of the major candidates for other reasons.
I honestly believe that the fact we have not, even now, elected a female president is shameful.
I agree. OTOH, I think that Hillary is, at heart, a technocrat. A policy wonk. She's just a two-faced policy wonk when it comes to pandering for votes.
She's not my first choice either. Nor my second. Nor even my tenth. My guy isn't likely to be elected, however. That's the trouble with being an extremist: you have to learn to be phlegmatic about disappointment. And pinheads.
I'd rather Gore, if I absolutely *had* to pick a Dem. But Gore isn't going to run. I'm quite confident of that. I believe he likes what he's doing now too well . . . and doesn't want to clash with the Clinton bulldozer, either. I believe he's had enough.
Well, we'll know fairly soon. I kind of hope I'm wrong. For the record, I also don't believe that Condi Rice will run either: if I'm wrong on both counts you can gloat twice.
It will be one of the more interesting questions of this next year. Is Gore running or is he going to sit this one out?
Im not so sure about Condi anymore .... I believe unless things turn around rather quickly.. Bush administration candidates arent gunna be worth much.
He needed some seasoning, but he's far from hollow. I have always been very keen on his passion for poverty, which is an issue very close to my heart, and other than women's rights, probably the issue I am most passionate about.
And while he might have lost his seat then, he would not lose it now. My how the worm has turned in two years, no?
klaatu
Fusionist
klaatu
Fusionist
It has turned .. and this November will show us how far .....
About Edwards.. I paid close attention to him during the campaign and he just seemd very scripted to me. And as far as the seasoning thing goes.. wasnt this one of your major complaints about Bush ..the on the job training factor? Id hate to go in that direction again ....
No, it wasn't one of my complaints at all. I thought him to be a disingenious POS since the first time I saw him, and that was when he held the press conference on the night Texas executed Karla Faye Tucker. I knew who he was of course, but I had not seen him speak at all. But I knew enough about electorial politics and the republican primary to understand that there was NO, ZERO, ,chance of his staying her execution, you understand? And then he came out, and I will never forget, in the most studied outfit you could imagine, it was a pullover sweater, and I swear to God his hair was all mussed up! And I said right then, they did that backstage, they wanted it to appear he was really torn about this decision, that it was a tough decision.
Of course, later I came to understand that it was Rove back stage mussing his hair. But then all Iknew was that I could smell a phony show when I saw one. And though I later would come to despise the man, it was from that moment that I knew I both didn't like him, and didn't trust him. It had nothing to do with his experience.
Honestly, I think Edwards is a bit of a lightweight.
I saw enough of him stumping on Cpsan during the primaries, to get a sense that, while he is intelligent and charasmatic, he doesn't have nearly the depth and breadth of knowledge to make me comfortable.
I guess I got spoiled by the clinton years. A chief executive, with an astonishing and almost technocratic knowledege and master of public policy.
I'm sick of stupid presidents, who don't have the breadth of knowledge to make good and informed decisions. And who are intellectually incurios.
I like Feingold.
I saw enough of him stumping on Cpsan during the primaries, to get a sense that, while he is intelligent and charasmatic, he doesn't have nearly the depth and breadth of knowledge to make me comfortable.
I guess I got spoiled by the clinton years. A chief executive, with an astonishing and almost technocratic knowledege and master of public policy.
I'm sick of stupid presidents, who don't have the breadth of knowledge to make good and informed decisions. And who are intellectually incurios.
I like Feingold.
I have to see more of Feingold Cypress. I forgot about him. I never see that guy, he should get out more.
We'd all love to have a genius. Or at least, those of us not on the hard, anti-intellectual, I love beer! right would. And if I see one of em, I'll be happy to vote for them, believe me.
I think you'd love Feingold.
I admit, I'm a cspan junike. Otherwise, its hard to catch Feingold. The dude has got "it". The same "it" that clinton had.
He'd probably be a great foreign policy president.
and like I said, outside the phony media hype of speculating about beltway insiders, lurk some democratic darkhorses:
Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D) of Montana is now the second most popular governor in the country and highest-ranked Democrat at 76%/18% approval/disapproval.
Nixon and Poppy Bush weren't nice looking.
evince
Truthmatters
Nixon was long ago when it didnt nmatter as much.
The American puplic has been so TVised they cant see beyond it any more.
Poppy Bush was a decent looking man at the time.
Im not talking they have to have moviestar looks but I really think American cant see past the below average look anymore.
I would LOVE to be proven wrong on this by somone like Gov. Brian Schweitzer.
The American puplic has been so TVised they cant see beyond it any more.
Poppy Bush was a decent looking man at the time.
Im not talking they have to have moviestar looks but I really think American cant see past the below average look anymore.
I would LOVE to be proven wrong on this by somone like Gov. Brian Schweitzer.