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archives said:
That seems to always appear as the common denominator of any defense regarding questions on the ethics of college sports, as well as many political arguments, “is it illegal?” Always thought amateurism implied equal competition on the field, not who paid the most to put the best on the field, that was always pro sports. And USC hasn’t earned the nickname “carpetbagger U” for nothing

Nothing personal, but your stretching the “national appeal” angle. For most, I believe it is recognized as a good school on the West Coast, and that is about it, not to sound redundant, but I think most would think Stanford when recalling a national appeal school out west. And, again, not criticizing, but I don’t view LA as an icon American city, more like an extending suburb, just doesn’t have the urban core that gives it character. San Francisco he’s, LA, no

And I think we have reached the end of this exchange, you ain’t buying it, and only time will credit my opinion. Just remember you heard it here first when the USC Trojans run on the field looking like NASCAR drivers, walking billboards, and attaining an actual earned undergraduate degree is an after thought
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Your attitude of almost East Coast superiority is very telling in this sense, I think a lot of people around you share it and that's played a big role in West Coast teams and specifically players not always getting the notoriety and respect they deserve. It is what it is but it's a reality.

Stanford is a world class University but they make almost no exceptions for athletes to gain admittance so they are not a realistic option for most kids. Not every kid is a City kid and that's fine. Some love the small college town environment and there's nothing wrong with that. But L.A. and Hollywood have great appeal to some so that's why kids want to come here.

We get called a lot of names but Carpetbagger U? I've heard no one call us that. We aren't the first to use the portal and certainly won't be the last.

We're 5-0 and #6 in the nation. I think we'll end up losing a couple of games this year and I'll be thrilled if we reach the Rose Bowl. It's rebuilding mode but big things are coming. It's going to be fun.
 
archives said:
That seems to always appear as the common denominator of any defense regarding questions on the ethics of college sports, as well as many political arguments, “is it illegal?” Always thought amateurism implied equal competition on the field, not who paid the most to put the best on the field, that was always pro sports. And USC hasn’t earned the nickname “carpetbagger U” for nothing

Nothing personal, but your stretching the “national appeal” angle. For most, I believe it is recognized as a good school on the West Coast, and that is about it, not to sound redundant, but I think most would think Stanford when recalling a national appeal school out west. And, again, not criticizing, but I don’t view LA as an icon American city, more like an extending suburb, just doesn’t have the urban core that gives it character. San Francisco he’s, LA, no

And I think we have reached the end of this exchange, you ain’t buying it, and only time will credit my opinion. Just remember you heard it here first when the USC Trojans run on the field looking like NASCAR drivers, walking billboards, and attaining an actual earned undergraduate degree is an after thought
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And I'm fine with not discussing this further but as you know college football isn't a democracy. It's not like 'we the people' get a vote on whether kids should have unlimited ability to transfer or anything else. We each of course individually have the choice not to attend any games or no longer watch college football. In a sense that is a form of voting. But we really have no say in it. Nor is USC some leader or cause of what's happening. As far as transfers yes we're playing the game but we didn't create those rules. Nor did we lead the changing of conferences. Once the dominoes started falling you either play or get left behind. The PAC 12 conference and former commissioner Larry Scott in particular, the one who really helped run the conference into the ground, sucked at what they were doing and that's why the conference is falling apart unfortunately.
 
archives said:
Whoa, that ain’t going go over well, surely said in jest.

USC has a good academic reputation, it’s not Stanford, but neither is UCLA, which seems to be the benchmark for USC alumni
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Naaa Wacko knows I’m trolling him. Shoot one of hero’s growing up was a USC Alum.
 
cawacko said:
Haha, that’s what they pay me the big bucks for Mott! We got this handled. :)
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Hey at least people have heard of you school. I haven’t met to many people outside of Ohio that’s ever heard of Wright State and even fewer who have heard of Palmer College. LOL
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I'm not a college football fan by any stretch of imagination, but I like the idea of private schools like USC and Notre Dame
being competitive with huge state universities where the fucking football coach is the highest paid state employee by far,
whether or not education is being properly funded.

I just wish it were Harvard, Dartmouth, Brown, and Yale instead of USC and Notre Dame.
But it isn't.
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They could if they wanted to. The Ivy League Schools have endowments that blow most State Universities out of the water.
 
Phantasmal said:
Hey, Mott, always nice of you to drop in…
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Thank you. I still keep an eye on JPP. I’m just fed up with dealing with MAGA Treason Weasels and am waiting for them and their in-American neo-fascism to go extinct so it’s possible to have rational conversations with people who understand what it means to be an American.
 
cawacko said:
Your attitude of almost East Coast superiority is very telling in this sense, I think a lot of people around you share it and that's played a big role in West Coast teams and specifically players not always getting the notoriety and respect they deserve. It is what it is but it's a reality.

Stanford is a world class University but they make almost no exceptions for athletes to gain admittance so they are not a realistic option for most kids. Not every kid is a City kid and that's fine. Some love the small college town environment and there's nothing wrong with that. But L.A. and Hollywood have great appeal to some so that's why kids want to come here.

We get called a lot of names but Carpetbagger U? I've heard no one call us that. We aren't the first to use the portal and certainly won't be the last.

We're 5-0 and #6 in the nation. I think we'll end up losing a couple of games this year and I'll be thrilled if we reach the Rose Bowl. It's rebuilding mode but big things are coming. It's going to be fun.
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Couldn’t resist, of course they share it, it is true, as Woody Allen once commented, “I don't want to move to a city where the only cultural advantage is being able to make a right turn on a red light.”

Everyone doesn’t have to be Stanford, and the minority angle is lame, but not being Stanford doesn’t mean schools should accentuate the full professionalization of college athletics just to keep alumni happy

USC as “Carpetbagger U” is what is circulating on social media
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Thank you. I still keep an eye on JPP. I’m just fed up with dealing with MAGA Treason Weasels and am waiting for them and their in-American neo-fascism to go extinct so it’s possible to have rational conversations with people who understand what it means to be an American.
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That is why I stay in the Sports Forum. The rest has gone bonkers.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Thank you. I still keep an eye on JPP. I’m just fed up with dealing with MAGA Treason Weasels and am waiting for them and their in-American neo-fascism to go extinct so it’s possible to have rational conversations with people who understand what it means to be an American.
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I understand that! Take care
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Hey at least people have heard of you school. I haven’t met to many people outside of Ohio that’s ever heard of Wright State and even fewer who have heard of Palmer College. LOL
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Hahahaha. I'll admit, I was like WTF is Palmer College?!?!

Have to admit as well I'm not real familiar with Wright State other than its know for having some alum marry a hot Filipino girl?
 
archives said:
Couldn’t resist, of course they share it, it is true, as Woody Allen once commented, “I don't want to move to a city where the only cultural advantage is being able to make a right turn on a red light.”

Everyone doesn’t have to be Stanford, and the minority angle is lame, but not being Stanford doesn’t mean schools should accentuate the full professionalization of college athletics just to keep alumni happy

USC as “Carpetbagger U” is what is circulating on social media
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Minority angle? Not following you on that.

I do have a question for you. You said you were in support of players unionizing. What would that entail? Right now allowing players almost unlimited timing to transfer and to make money off their N.I.L. is very progressive and pro player empowerment. What would a union offer that's different or better?
 
cawacko said:
Hahahaha. I'll admit, I was like WTF is Palmer College?!?!

Have to admit as well I'm not real familiar with Wright State other than its know for having some alum marry a hot Filipino girl?
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Oh Wright State has some famous alumni. I’m sure you’ve heard of Nicole Scherzinger (who is half Filipina) and Nancy Cartwright and Zydrunas Ilgauskus the 7’4” center for the Cleveland Cavaliers for many years. There’s also quite a few high ranking USAF Generals who attended Wright State due to its proximity to Wright Patterson AFB.

Palmer College is a graduate professional school of Chiropractic in Davenport, IA. It was considered the top Chiropractic College in the world when I attended and at that time was the only U.S. Chiropractic College with the same level of accreditation as U.S. Medical School. As far as I know it still is the most prestigious Chiropractic College (Though that’s probably like saying I attended the most prestigious large animal veterinary college). It’s notorious for having a super hard work load. I averaged Over 30 credit hours per trimester the four trimesters I attended. Think of it as a smaller version of John Hopkins with a major inferiority complex LOL

Having said that Palmer graduates have a reputation for being tops in that field. So if you ever need a chiropractor it’s not a bad Idea to seek a Palmer graduate.
 
I told the OP that both Oregon and Texas were going to do great things this year and that Washington State is a "sleeper". WSU started out strong against the condoms (Trojans) but laid down at the end. TX and OR almost upset their opponents yesterday.
 
archives said:
Whoa, that ain’t going go over well, surely said in jest.

USC has a good academic reputation, it’s not Stanford, but neither is UCLA, which seems to be the benchmark for USC alumni
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The USC condoms crushed my Washington State Cougs last night :( I believe the condoms are in the top 10 right now!
 
cawacko said:
If you can show me what we’re doing that Alabama does that you feel is so wrong or illegal I’ll listen. Otherwise we’ve hired a great coach, are a world class university in the heart of Hollywood and the second largest city in the country and are a blue blood who sends tons of kids to the NFL.

I see you defending big cities when others rip on them. You of all people should understand the national appeal of USC
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Alabama almost elected a pedophile to the US senate then elected a football coach with brain damage to replace the Democrat. Alabama is a boil on the taint of America.
 
archives said:
That seems to always appear as the common denominator of any defense regarding questions on the ethics of college sports, as well as many political arguments, “is it illegal?” Always thought amateurism implied equal competition on the field, not who paid the most to put the best on the field, that was always pro sports. And USC hasn’t earned the nickname “carpetbagger U” for nothing

Nothing personal, but your stretching the “national appeal” angle. For most, I believe it is recognized as a good school on the West Coast, and that is about it, not to sound redundant, but I think most would think Stanford when recalling a national appeal school out west. And, again, not criticizing, but I don’t view LA as an icon American city, more like an extending suburb, just doesn’t have the urban core that gives it character. San Francisco he’s, LA, no

And I think we have reached the end of this exchange, you ain’t buying it, and only time will credit my opinion. Just remember you heard it here first when the USC Trojans run on the field looking like NASCAR drivers, walking billboards, and attaining an actual earned undergraduate degree is an after thought
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USC, Stanford and UCLA are very prestigious schools. They rival the Ivy league schools just fine. I'd hire a USC lawyer as readily as a Harvard lawyer. By the way, Ron DeSantis and Stewart Rhodes both went to Harvard. So fuck Harvard.
 
cawacko said:
Minority angle? Not following you on that.

I do have a question for you. You said you were in support of players unionizing. What would that entail? Right now allowing players almost unlimited timing to transfer and to make money off their N.I.L. is very progressive and pro player empowerment. What would a union offer that's different or better?
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Unionization would mean all athletes share equally, and the school, not alumni or some local car dealer, would have control. Coaches couldn’t recruit or work covertly on transfers promising six figure rewards. Point being if it is going to be professional, at least there would some semester of control and degree of amateurism
 
LurchAddams said:
USC, Stanford and UCLA are very prestigious schools. They rival the Ivy league schools just fine. I'd hire a USC lawyer as readily as a Harvard lawyer. By the way, Ron DeSantis and Stewart Rhodes both went to Harvard. So fuck Harvard.
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Good, really good, not prestigious, and only Sanford rivals Ivy League schools, not that it matters, and DeSantis is only one of thousands
 
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