Confederate Statues

[LV426]

Also it’s important to know that the confederate soldiers were pardoned of treason and granted full rights again after the war by President Johnso

...who was later impeached.

So great...so he pardoned them...so that means it's OK to honor them by building monuments to them? Since when is that OK?

Any capital they had was trashed the moment they had to be pardoned.

Lincoln also pardoned many people before he died, and Grant was very lenient as well. If they were able to see them as Americans and look ahead then I think we can too.

And that was the mistake. Because not buring the whole fucking thing down like Sherman wanted, let the Klan thrive, paved the way for Jim Crow, which paved the way for mass incarceration and Trump.

So the country's Original Sin was slavery, and Original Sin 2.0 was not burning down the entire South after the war. Conservatives only know harshness and violence, and that's what should have happened to the South post-Civil War. Burn it all down and salt the earth. If they had done that, our country would be better off today.

Reconstruction let traitors off the hook.

Never again.

 

[LV426]

You have emotions towards this so it’s reasonable that the other side will have similar feelings. It’s your right to disagree with it and it’s their right to support it. Also it’s important to know that the confederate soldiers were pardoned of treason and granted full rights again after the war by President Johnson. Lincoln also pardoned many people before he died, and Grant was very lenient as well. If they were able to see them as Americans and look ahead then I think we can too.

Oh, and if seeing a monument to a traitor doesn't fill you with rage, then you are of dubious moral character and not an ally who can be counted on when it matters.

 

[Getin the ring]

Fuck their feelings.

So this is about "feelings". So what "feelings" do Conservatives have for these Confederates other than admiration? Because that's the only feeling they seem to express toward the statues and monuments to traitors and losers.

but it IS about your feelings, huh cupcake?

no one elses matter, but cupcakes feelings are hurt by a bunch of bronze inanimate objects,
so erase history

all better now, friggin fruitcake

 

[Getin the ring]

Oh, and if seeing a monument to a traitor doesn't fill you with rage, then you are of dubious moral character and not an ally who can be counted on when it matters.

actually I have a little better control of my "rage" than that, more self respect, and mostly I understand I can't have my way all the time.

these are basic life tools or you end up like, well , like you for instance, whining non-stop about something different every day

whaaaaaa

 

[LV426]

but it IS about your feelings, huh cupcake?

Yes, I am angered by monuments to traitors, racists, and losers and find you of dubious moral character that you are not.

 

[LV426]

no one elses matter, but cupcakes feelings are hurt by a bunch of bronze inanimate objects,o erase history

So if the monuments are removed, you'll suddenly forget who lost the Civil War?

Maybe get checked out for that memory loss...it's usually a sign of brain damage or mental illness.

 

[Sailor]

All Conservatives are just as bigoted and homophobic as Sailor. Some are just better at hiding it than others.

Yawn.

 

[LV426]

but cupcakes feelings are hurt by a bunch of bronze inanimate objects, so erase history

I keep coming back to this because it's such a stupid argument. It's not "history" that's being erased by pulling down these monuments to traitors, it's your sanitizing and glorification that is erased. So when you are referring to history being erased, what you're really saying is that the fake history you've conjured up for these traitors is being erased by the removal of their monuments, and that you're being forced to accept the un-sanitized version of the people with whom you share the same values. History will always be there...what you are seeking is to preserve the sanitized fake history of these people with whom you share the same values. You want your history to be accommodated in the public space. Well, fuck you and fuck your need for accommodation.

Tear them all down. Dig up the graves. Burn whatever remains. Traitors don't get to rest in peace.

 

[LV426]

actually I have a little better control of my "rage" than that, more self respect, and mostly I understand I can't have my way all the time.

Doubtful.

Your entire defense of Confederate monuments is all about accommodation. Accommodating your fake history so you don't have to feel like a garbage person for sharing the same values as traitors who got their asses kicked 150+ years ago.

So the posturing you do around the monuments is bullshit, and I'm not accommodating that bad faith.

Go fuck yourself.

 

[LV426]

whaaaaaa

"Accommodate my sanitized glorification of traitors and losers"

You're the baby here because you think you're entitled to have your fake history accommodated.

Well guess what? Fuck you, fuck your fake history, fuck your entitlement, and fuck accommodation.

Participation trophies only foster a culture of loserdom.

 

[LV426]

Yawn.

Yeah, you are a boring person. I concur. Nothing interesting about you. Just another Conservative who feels entitled to accommodation that you didn't earn or deserve.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

but it IS about your feelings, huh cupcake?

no one elses matter, but cupcakes feelings are hurt by a bunch of bronze inanimate objects,
so erase history

all better now, friggin fruitcake

Cupcakes feelings are hurt by a bunch of bronze inanimate objects being removed.

 

[Sailor]

Yeah, you are a boring person. I concur. Nothing interesting about you. Just another Conservative who feels entitled to accommodation that you didn't earn or deserve.

Yawn. You may go now.

 

[katzgar]

You have emotions towards this so it’s reasonable that the other side will have similar feelings. It’s your right to disagree with it and it’s their right to support it. Also it’s important to know that the confederate soldiers were pardoned of treason and granted full rights again after the war by President Johnson. Lincoln also pardoned many people before he died, and Grant was very lenient as well. If they were able to see them as Americans and look ahead then I think we can too.

Statues put up to enforce Jim Crow are a very different issue

 

[LV426]

Cupcakes feelings are hurt by a bunch of bronze inanimate objects being removed.

What gets them upset is that the monuments serve to sanitize and glorify people who were terrible. People who renounced the US. People who believed in white supremacy. People who supported slavery. That's the history that is erased when one of these participation trophies is erected. So when they screech about "erasing history", what they're really screeching about is that their fake and glorified history isn't being accommodated. So they're actually the whiny little snowflakes who need participation trophies to glorify racists, traitors, and losers, with whom they share they same values.

 

[LV426]

Yawn. You may go now.

Why not just kill yourself? I mean, you probably will eventually anyway since poor white trash is drinking itself to death. Speed the process up. I bet if you killed yourself now, someone might actually care.

 

[LV426]

Statues put up to enforce Jim Crow are a very different issue

What these people want is to sanitize and glorify racists, traitors, and losers because they share the same values. So the Confederate Statues are an accommodation of that. But that accommodation is bullshit, and we should cease playing nice with people who share the same values as traitors, racists, and losers.

 

[Sailor]

Why not just kill yourself? I mean, you probably will eventually anyway since poor white trash is drinking itself to death. Speed the process up. I bet if you killed yourself now, someone might actually care.

Are you still here little gender neutral whatever the fuck you are? Seriously. Bother someone else. You are not worth the sweat off my balls.

 

[LV426]

Are you still here little gender neutral whatever the fuck you are? Seriously. Bother someone else. You are not worth the sweat off my balls.

You're the one who responded to my posts, shitgoblin. If reading what I write upsets you this much, put me on ignore. Then you can only hear voices that agree with you, like you really want.

 

[Sailor]

You're the one who responded to my posts, shitgoblin. If reading what I write upsets you this much, put me on ignore. Then you can only hear voices that agree with you, like you really want.

You are not only confused about your sexual identity, you obviously cannot read nor comprehend. Everyone already knows you are dumb as a rock. Cozy up to the likes of Evince and Katzgar. They are both at your lower intellectual level.