Connecticut To Give Its Electoral College Votes To National Popular Vote Victor
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Can you post the evidence that it had any effect on the outcome of the last election? I will answer that for you because you are a dishonest Fascist lefty; NONE.
I just have to laugh and shake my head that idiots like this one think that Trump only one because the Russians helped him cheat. It's stupid on epic levels.
...which the Fascist left hates.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
this makes you just as much the idiot fool as liberals. maybe you are a liberal. our government elites have ignored us or used us against each other for their own purposes. they are not us, they do not serve us. believing that they do lessens you.
I agree with this wholeheartedly; for States like California it would better represent the voters than the current winner take all. Millions are under-represented in the Presidential elections.
Let's be clear; what is proposed here would certainly circumvent the voters of this state. They are saying they will force their electors to cast ALL their votes for whoever has the most popular votes in the nation. That is most certainly not what happens now and is completely contrary to a Democratic Republic of States.
Fascist leftist moron wants to permit the coastal states to decide ALL future Presidential elections and screw the middle part of the country. Dumbass.
Another lying liberal Fascist who doesn't know what a Democratic republic means. Further proof of the glaring failure of our leftist educational establishment. But alas, their goal is to graduate pure idiots to ensure that the Fascistic Democratic Party of the Jackass no longer has to compete for votes.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Straw Man Alert!
Hello Threedee,
I didn't say that, and I do not appreciate somebody putting words into my mouth.
I appreciate that so little, and have so little desire to play those immature word games that I have placed people on permanent Ignore for just that.
I am not going to read the posts of somebody who does this. I am not putting you on Ignore this time, but if you have a habit of doing this I will.
I'd like to continue discussing politics with you, but you are going to have to let me have my own say. You get to write your own posts, not mine. I promise not to make things up and pretend you said them, and I demand the same in return. I hope we have an understanding here.
I stand behind what I say. If I am shown to be wrong, I will admit it and apologize if appropriate. But I refuse to be held responsible for something somebody else made up and attributed to me.
I was partially incorrect when I stated that "Our forefathers never envisioned that today's conservatives would hate the government and even want to possibly overthrow it." SmarterthanYou correctly posted that Jefferson actually did say "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." I have yet to hear a quote from the founders in which they envisioned the conservatives of 2018 simply hating the government in general. I was also correct when I stated that those who seek to overthrow the US government are extremists and relegated to the fringe.
Hello Threedee,
I didn't say that, and I do not appreciate somebody putting words into my mouth.
I appreciate that so little, and have so little desire to play those immature word games that I have placed people on permanent Ignore for just that.
I am not going to read the posts of somebody who does this. I am not putting you on Ignore this time, but if you have a habit of doing this I will.
I'd like to continue discussing politics with you, but you are going to have to let me have my own say. You get to write your own posts, not mine. I promise not to make things up and pretend you said them, and I demand the same in return. I hope we have an understanding here.
I stand behind what I say. If I am shown to be wrong, I will admit it and apologize if appropriate. But I refuse to be held responsible for something somebody else made up and attributed to me.
I was partially incorrect when I stated that "Our forefathers never envisioned that today's conservatives would hate the government and even want to possibly overthrow it." SmarterthanYou correctly posted that Jefferson actually did say "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." I have yet to hear a quote from the founders in which they envisioned the conservatives of 2018 simply hating the government in general. I was also correct when I stated that those who seek to overthrow the US government are extremists and relegated to the fringe.
Do you imagine our soldiers killing millions of their own, perhaps cousins, brothers and sisters to defend a Fascist state?
It would be close; add a few Fascistic leftist utopias like Washington, Oregon, New Jersey etc. and you would have more than enough of the popular vote from idiots like you.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello SmarterthanYou,
How would that work?
If there was an armed take-over of our government, and it were successful, do you envision that the victors would keep the US Constitution? How could that work after what they did was illegal and in violation of the Constitution? If they destroy the US government which is based on the Constitution, then they are not following the Constitution.
How would that work?
If there was an armed take-over of our government, and it were successful, do you envision that the victors would keep the US Constitution? How could that work after what they did was illegal and in violation of the Constitution? If they destroy the US government which is based on the Constitution, then they are not following the Constitution.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
you're not following the logic, you're making your own hypothetical.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello and goodbye SmarterthanYou,
It has been interesting exchanging thoughts with you, but you have gone beyond civil discussion and made things personal by flaming on me, and on liberals in general.
I have made it very clear from the beginning that I do not tolerate that. You are the latest entry on my Ignore List. You will also be banned from any Topics I create. Forever. You are free to create a sock and come back and try again, but if you flame on me in any way the same thing will happen again. And again and again until you tire of it. I have to be strict about this to make it work so beautifully for me. And it does. It is so fabulous. I don't have to play those games. Nobody does. We have the power to do that. I use it and it works wonderfully. I generally do not have anybody flaming on me. My visits are so cordial and enjoyable I can't imagine ever changing the way I do this.
There is nothing wrong with being liberal. There is nothing wrong with being conservative. What is wrong is when people consider their fellow Americans to be their enemy.
United We Stand. Divided We Fall.
Diversity makes America great.
That means diversity of views as well as ethnic background.
We need liberals and we need conservatives. We need all points of view, and we need to be able to discuss the issues of our nation freely among ourselves. That's what Makes America great. Together we must find a way to arrive at policy. As soon as we stop discussing issues, events or ideas and begin calling one another names, then the focus of the conversation has changed and we are simply venting, and not doing any brainstorming or learning.
I believe in America. I believe in the concept of self-government. For a self-government to work and be functional, it depends on a well-informed and actively engaged populace. Doing my part of that is why I come here so I can learn about what is going on and what people think. If people just want to vent their frustrations on me because they think I am responsible from some policy they don't believe in I don't want to be their target for that. That is not meaningful discussion. I only allot myself so much time to come here and I don't want to waste it reading immature blurtings of those who think this is all a big insult contest. Once that gets started, then meaningful conversation is over.
You can play those games with lessor minds all you want, but you cannot and shall not have a conversation with me in which you get personal and flame on me.
You can do that once and once only. Then you become an example to others that I mean exactly what I say in my Signature.
It takes two for harassment to occur. The victim must allow it. If the victim of harassment does nothing and lets it go that is like saying it is OK to do it more, do it all the time. The victim thus becomes an enabler for the harasser. I am not going to be your enabler or anybody else's enabler.
I sincerely hope you have a nice life, but it will be one without talking to me. I also hope you take this lesson and think about why you come here.
Ostensibly, we all come here to discuss politics. You can say whatever you like in response to this but you can also know that I won't ever read it.
It has been interesting exchanging thoughts with you, but you have gone beyond civil discussion and made things personal by flaming on me, and on liberals in general.
I have made it very clear from the beginning that I do not tolerate that. You are the latest entry on my Ignore List. You will also be banned from any Topics I create. Forever. You are free to create a sock and come back and try again, but if you flame on me in any way the same thing will happen again. And again and again until you tire of it. I have to be strict about this to make it work so beautifully for me. And it does. It is so fabulous. I don't have to play those games. Nobody does. We have the power to do that. I use it and it works wonderfully. I generally do not have anybody flaming on me. My visits are so cordial and enjoyable I can't imagine ever changing the way I do this.
There is nothing wrong with being liberal. There is nothing wrong with being conservative. What is wrong is when people consider their fellow Americans to be their enemy.
United We Stand. Divided We Fall.
Diversity makes America great.
That means diversity of views as well as ethnic background.
We need liberals and we need conservatives. We need all points of view, and we need to be able to discuss the issues of our nation freely among ourselves. That's what Makes America great. Together we must find a way to arrive at policy. As soon as we stop discussing issues, events or ideas and begin calling one another names, then the focus of the conversation has changed and we are simply venting, and not doing any brainstorming or learning.
I believe in America. I believe in the concept of self-government. For a self-government to work and be functional, it depends on a well-informed and actively engaged populace. Doing my part of that is why I come here so I can learn about what is going on and what people think. If people just want to vent their frustrations on me because they think I am responsible from some policy they don't believe in I don't want to be their target for that. That is not meaningful discussion. I only allot myself so much time to come here and I don't want to waste it reading immature blurtings of those who think this is all a big insult contest. Once that gets started, then meaningful conversation is over.
You can play those games with lessor minds all you want, but you cannot and shall not have a conversation with me in which you get personal and flame on me.
You can do that once and once only. Then you become an example to others that I mean exactly what I say in my Signature.
It takes two for harassment to occur. The victim must allow it. If the victim of harassment does nothing and lets it go that is like saying it is OK to do it more, do it all the time. The victim thus becomes an enabler for the harasser. I am not going to be your enabler or anybody else's enabler.
I sincerely hope you have a nice life, but it will be one without talking to me. I also hope you take this lesson and think about why you come here.
Ostensibly, we all come here to discuss politics. You can say whatever you like in response to this but you can also know that I won't ever read it.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
No candidate got a majority of votes in 2016.
There is nothing in the Constitution about popular votes or the candidate winning the majority of votes in a state getting the electoral votes. It says state legislatures should determine the method to award electoral votes and states passed laws allowing the most (a simple plurality, not a majority) of popular votes to determine electors.
The founders specially sought to avoid majority rule because the majority can always impose its will on the minority. Much of the Constitution is constructed to prevent any group from imposing its will on others.