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Article I, Section 8 makes it clear that the founders had no problem with raising and supporting an army and providing and maintaining a navy. In fact, their very words say so.

the key word is STRONG. the founders feared a standing army even though they knew one was necessary
 
yes, we know your 'relative' terms, like government should be limited and restrained, except for the military and law enforcement, which should be the most powerful force on earth. pffffft

The military should be powerful. The founding fathers agreed so much they were willing to put several things in the Constitution related to supporting, maintaining, and raising it.
 
The military should be powerful. The founding fathers agreed so much they were willing to put several things in the Constitution related to supporting, maintaining, and raising it.

comprehension is one of your weakest areas. did they also agree to have the military stronger than the citizens?????????? if you believe that, show us the cite.
 
comprehension is one of your weakest areas. did they also agree to have the military stronger than the citizens?????????? if you believe that, show us the cite.

There you go demanding everyone believe you because you said so.

The founders felt the military should be strong whether you believe it or not. You being in it only made it weaker, bitch. It failed to do anything to help you as you continue to live as a pussy. The only thing I can't determine is which is a bigger pussy. You or the one between your wife's legs.
 
There you go demanding everyone believe you because you said so.

The founders felt the military should be strong whether you believe it or not. You being in it only made it weaker, bitch. It failed to do anything to help you as you continue to live as a pussy. The only thing I can't determine is which is a bigger pussy. You or the one between your wife's legs.

so you're unable to provide any historical citation to prove your claim, all your petty bullshit insults made meaningless, since your own pussy failed to prove your bullshit. I think you just determined that you're the biggest pussy of all.
 
so you're unable to provide any historical citation to prove your claim, all your petty bullshit insults made meaningless, since your own pussy failed to prove your bullshit. I think you just determined that you're the biggest pussy of all.

I provided the Constitution. You ignored it yet you claim to be the expert on it.

With your wife, I had a big pussy. With you, I have to deal with someone that calls himself a man but couldn't whip his own ass if he tried.
 
I provided the Constitution. You ignored it yet you claim to be the expert on it.
you're an even bigger idiot than you've shown yourself to be. you've thrown up COUNTLESS historical citations to show that the founders had a certain belief about the general welfare clause, yet you can't put up a SINGLE citation about how they wanted a strong military simply citing the constitution, which says no such thing about them wanting a STRONG military, just that they wanted a military. However, I've thrown up dozens upon dozens of citations throughout the years proving EVERYTHING i've ever said about what the constitution says. So now we really know it is YOU that ignores everything but what YOU want it to be.

With your wife, I had a big pussy.
ANY pussy would be huge when your 2 inch dick is involved.


With you, I have to deal with someone that calls himself a man but couldn't whip his own ass if he tried.
:coolstorybro:
 
you're an even bigger idiot than you've shown yourself to be. you've thrown up COUNTLESS historical citations to show that the founders had a certain belief about the general welfare clause, yet you can't put up a SINGLE citation about how they wanted a strong military simply citing the constitution, which says no such thing about them wanting a STRONG military, just that they wanted a military. However, I've thrown up dozens upon dozens of citations throughout the years proving EVERYTHING i've ever said about what the constitution says. So now we really know it is YOU that ignores everything but what YOU want it to be.

ANY pussy would be huge when your 2 inch dick is involved.

Her pussy is big because I did to it what you could never do and stretched it out.



:coolstorybro:

All I need to cite is the Constitution. Seems someone like you that constantly uses it to back up what he claims now ignores it when you don't like what it says.

You cite yourself as a source only wanting to hear agreement because you said so.
 
All I need to cite is the Constitution. Seems someone like you that constantly uses it to back up what he claims now ignores it when you don't like what it says.

You cite yourself as a source only wanting to hear agreement because you said so.

ROFL, typical ignorant idiocy. I cite the constitution, yes, but I also back it up with historically cited comments from the founding fathers. YOU, apparently, are unable to do that. that tells us that you can't back up your stupid bullshit.
 
ROFL, typical ignorant idiocy. I cite the constitution, yes, but I also back it up with historically cited comments from the founding fathers. YOU, apparently, are unable to do that. that tells us that you can't back up your stupid bullshit.

You cite yourself as a source only wanting confirmation of what you say.

The wording of the Constitution backs up what I say. Why do you think the founders allowed Congress to raise and support it but the President to be in charge of it? I wasn't by accident. They were suspicious of standing armies because of how European monarchs, with total control of spending and operations, had abused that power by using the military in ways the founders wanted to avoid while maintaining something that was strong in order to "provide for the common defense" whether we were at war or in case we went to war so we were prepared.

Try reading Federalist #45.

George Washington made the following statements are various times showing that he felt a strong military was necessary even in peacetime:

the “most effectual means of preserving peace” is “to be prepared for war.” - First Annual Address to Congress January, 1790

the nation's security shouldn't be left “to the uncertainty of procuring a warlike apparatus at the moment of public danger.” - Fifth Annual Address to Congress December, 1793

“that timely disbursements to prepare for danger frequently prevent much greater disbursements to repel it.” - Farewell Address 1796

“belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.” Farewell Address 1796

Even Jefferson agreed and believed in building a powerful and capable enough military was a good idea in order that our enemies prefer not to challenge it:

“the power of making war often prevents it.” Jefferson advising G. Washington in a letter in 1788.
 
You cite yourself as a source only wanting confirmation of what you say.

The wording of the Constitution backs up what I say. Why do you think the founders allowed Congress to raise and support it but the President to be in charge of it? I wasn't by accident. They were suspicious of standing armies because of how European monarchs, with total control of spending and operations, had abused that power by using the military in ways the founders wanted to avoid while maintaining something that was strong in order to "provide for the common defense" whether we were at war or in case we went to war so we were prepared.

Try reading Federalist #45.

George Washington made the following statements are various times showing that he felt a strong military was necessary even in peacetime:

the “most effectual means of preserving peace” is “to be prepared for war.” - First Annual Address to Congress January, 1790

the nation's security shouldn't be left “to the uncertainty of procuring a warlike apparatus at the moment of public danger.” - Fifth Annual Address to Congress December, 1793

“that timely disbursements to prepare for danger frequently prevent much greater disbursements to repel it.” - Farewell Address 1796

“belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.” Farewell Address 1796

Even Jefferson agreed and believed in building a powerful and capable enough military was a good idea in order that our enemies prefer not to challenge it:

“the power of making war often prevents it.” Jefferson advising G. Washington in a letter in 1788.

every single one of those founders also believed in the citizenry being more powerful than the standing army, do you not agree?
 
So you are politically confused. :laugh:

Nonetheless, I like the apolitical honesty in your posts.

I thought it was everybody else that was confused. I mostly respond to posts that I think contain misleading factual information regardless of whether it is liberal or conservative. I am not very partisan and dislike the intolerance and hatred shown by both sides. I used to be more liberal until I realized all my liberal friends were as intolerant and disparaging toward the lower and working classes as those they accused of intolerance.
 
every single one of those founders also believed in the citizenry being more powerful than the standing army, do you not agree?

Everyone of those founders and then some believed that the military should be strong enough to be a deterrent even in times of peace. That is the topic at hand. Do you not agree?
 
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