Coronavirus gone in 3 weeks.

There is definitely a counter-expertise movement afoot. A good leader should be able to settle the people to confront a severe pandemic. trump is a rabble rouser who emboldens the worst elements of our society, which will make any battle nearly impossible. Hopefully, we can move past him before America collapses.

Sooner or later, America will confront a problem we have to sacrifice for. Covid-19 is such a relatively minor such problem, but there will be bigger ones. When trump destroys the response to even such a relatively minor problem, we know he had no hope for the big ones that will come sooner or later.

Fuck Trump....Trump was intended to be the tune up but it did not work.

Onto BIG PAIN

That always works.
 
We need to keep pushing to get back to life, for herd immunity, until/unless the hospitals cant cope.

We are building fast now, probably a half a million people a day now are building immunity.

And the hospitals are doing fine.

There is only one direction:

FORWARDS

At least you admit you do not care if Americans get sick and die. That is cold and unfeeling, but it is also the worst of solutions. A 3 week shutdown would save millions of cases and many, many deaths. I think that is the way to go.
 
When you consider that one of the most authoritarian governments and conformist societies in the world (China) didn't successfully lock things down, I seriously doubt any free country (I say that loosely) can manage it. China certainly tried to make it look like the lockdown worked for them, but the only way they could accomplish that was through widespread censorship and eventually kicking out foreign journalists.

We've seen South Korea and Japan do well, for the most part, but neither of them stayed in lockdown for very long. As far as I understand it, Japan didn't really have a lockdown at all.


I have seen a couple documentaries about the coronavirus. One was called, "The Virus. What went wrong." In neither one did they mention anything about journalists being kicked out of the country. Nor the diplomats from any country. Then there are all the spies we probably have. So keeping such a deadly outbreak under wraps would be almost impossible for even China to do. Next, we aren't Japan or Korea. And right now the coronavirus is kicking ass and picking up speed. And as you probably heard, much of Europe has gone into another shutdown. I think it's time to use my plan.
 
That is what China did, and they are doing well. Their only danger is people traveling in from outside.

And therein lies one of the big problems. We cannot get the whole world onboard, because there are some scary places on earth. There are places controlled by Boko Haram, and there are places controlled by the Taliban. These are people who really do not care if the world has a pandemic.

What a lockdown buys us is time. A lockdown could buy us time to develop testing, and contact tracing. Or it could buy us time to develop a vaccine. Or it could buy us time for the rest of the world to form herd immunity and the virus to die out. Or it could spread things out to flatten the curve. Or it could just lesson the outbreak... But there will be a next outbreak... And hopefully we will take better control of that.

It is a very good idea, but it is not a magic bullet. We need a plan for what we are doing this for, because it will not wipe out the virus. A total lockdown would be a one two punch with something else being the two.

We may not be able to get every country on board. But we could get enough to make a real difference.
 
I have seen a couple documentaries about the coronavirus. One was called, "The Virus. What went wrong." In neither one did they mention anything about journalists being kicked out of the country. Nor the diplomats from any country. Then there are all the spies we probably have. So keeping such a deadly outbreak under wraps would be almost impossible for even China to do. Next, we aren't Japan or Korea. And right now the coronavirus is kicking ass and picking up speed. And as you probably heard, much of Europe has gone into another shutdown. I think it's time to use my plan.

China is different from most countries in that we don't have access to their infrastructure as much as we do in the West and various other parts of the world. While it is true that we have plenty of spies, getting information out of China isn't easy. It took a while for us to find out what they were doing to the Uyghurs, for example. Most of the information we get about that issue comes from defectors and very brave whistleblowers.

I would agree that we aren't Japan or South Korea. To think a longer shutdown would work in a far more individualistic country than Japan or South Korea is a fantasy.
 
China is different from most countries in that we don't have access to their infrastructure as much as we do in the West and various other parts of the world. While it is true that we have plenty of spies, getting information out of China isn't easy. It took a while for us to find out what they were doing to the Uyghurs, for example. Most of the information we get about that issue comes from defectors and very brave whistleblowers.

I would agree that we aren't Japan or South Korea. To think a longer shutdown would work in a far more individualistic country than Japan or South Korea is a fantasy.

Are the Uyghurs you speak of those Chinese muslims they are cracking down on? If so, China should just slaughter all of those scum. Islam is a religion of violence. Mohammed himself is said to have personally cut off 600 to 900 people's heads with a knife. Also, I wonder if the Chinese muslims cut girls clits off. Next, didn't you watch the news last night? The shutdowns have already begun here. And as the virus spreads faster, the more lockdowns there will be. They are also predicting around 400,000 dead Americans by the spring. Even with the vaccine. I think we should go with my plan.
 
Are the Uyghurs you speak of those Chinese muslims they are cracking down on? If so, China should just slaughter all of those scum. Islam is a religion of violence. Mohammed himself is said to have personally cut off 600 to 900 people's heads with a knife. Also, I wonder if the Chinese muslims cut girls clits off. Next, didn't you watch the news last night? The shutdowns have already begun here. And as the virus spreads faster, the more lockdowns there will be. They are also predicting around 400,000 dead Americans by the spring. Even with the vaccine. I think we should go with my plan.

Uh... The part of your post about Muslims is like a stereotype of Trump voters. I'm not a fan of certain interpretations of Islam, but to think the Uyghurs deserve to be wiped out is ironically very much in line with the kind of thinking ISIS has toward non-Muslims.
 
Uh... The part of your post about Muslims is like a stereotype of Trump voters. I'm not a fan of certain interpretations of Islam, but to think the Uyghurs deserve to be wiped out is ironically very much in line with the kind of thinking ISIS has toward non-Muslims.

There is nothing to interpret. Mohammed was a murderous warlord who started his own religion. And though the interpretation is wrong in places, the koran says it all. Violence is always an option. And lying to non-muslims is almost a religious duty. Not only that, but muslims are a bunch of insulting terms for homosexuals. In some muslim countries, pederasty is openly practiced. Just like it used to be in ancient Rome and Greece. In islam, men practicing fellatio on each other is ok. They just don't want you doing it up the butt. In muslim countries, it isn't unusual to see two men walking along and holding hands. It's no wonder they most often treat their women like cattle. There is an interesting documentary out there you should try to find and watch. It's called, "Islam: What the West needs to know."
 
There is nothing to interpret. Mohammed was a murderous warlord who started his own religion. And though the interpretation is wrong in places, the koran says it all. Violence is always an option. And lying to non-muslims is almost a religious duty. Not only that, but muslims are a bunch of insulting terms for homosexuals. In some muslim countries, pederasty is openly practiced. Just like it used to be in ancient Rome and Greece. In islam, men practicing fellatio on each other is ok. They just don't want you doing it up the butt. In muslim countries, it isn't unusual to see two men walking along and holding hands. It's no wonder they most often treat their women like cattle. There is an interesting documentary out there you should try to find and watch. It's called, "Islam: What the West needs to know."

Out of curiosity, did you vote for Biden?
 
Out of curiosity, did you vote for Biden?

No. I couldn't bring myself to vote for a negro lover. So I threw my vote away on the green party. Just to show you how fucked up this country is, they had another group to vote for on the ticket. The Transcendental party. Yeah, as if you can meditate to solve problems. And have you ever seen those whackos try to levitate? As they sit in a cross legged position, they hop around trying to float.
 
No. I couldn't bring myself to vote for a negro lover. So I threw my vote away on the green party. Just to show you how fucked up this country is, they had another group to vote for on the ticket. The Transcendental party. Yeah, as if you can meditate to solve problems. And have you ever seen those whackos try to levitate? As they sit in a cross legged position, they hop around trying to float.

Ah ok... Well, I voted for Trump. But I don't have a problem with "negro lovers". I'm not a fan of Harris at all, but it's not because of her race/ethnicity. I'm also not a fan of BLM at all, but that's because I despise race baiting and the false narrative they promote.

The only Muslims I have a problem with are the radical ones. And Uyghurs don't tend to be radical.
 
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We may not be able to get every country on board. But we could get enough to make a real difference.

It depends what you mean by "real difference." A lockdown that did not wipe out the disease would definitely buy us time, and would make the next step in trying to control the disease more manageable. If we did not take advantage of that time, and lower numbers to do something good, we would be back in the same situation a few months later.

Lately, Covid-19 has been often doubling every two weeks, so lets use that as an assumed number(just as an example). If we can reduce the number of daily cases to 100, that would be a traceable number, if we had a contact trace system. That would also buy us time. But if we did nothing other than reduce the number of daily cases to 100, then it would double every two weeks, and 20 weeks later(5 months or so), we would be back at 100,000.
 
Ah ok... Well, I voted for Trump. But I don't have a problem with "negro lovers". I'm not a fan of Harris at all, but it's not because of her race/ethnicity. I'm also not a fan of BLM at all, but that's because I despise race baiting and the false narrative they promote.

The only Muslims I have a problem with are the radical ones. And Uyghurs don't tend to be radical.


You voted for Trump?! With his refusal to face reality (not that I think he ever did to begin with) and concede defeat, I bet you feel pretty stupid now. Next, I TOLD you some of what muslims are like. If you don't have a problem with them, you're delusional. They are only responsible for about 95% of the terrorist attacks around the world. And look at when they attacked a school in Russia. The Beslan school siege. Around 334 people were killed. More than half were children. Also, their version of jesus, mohammed, was a pedophile. He married a 6 year old girl. I don't know how many blow jobs she gave, but the marriage was officially consummated when she was 9. With the koran promoting violence as it does, I want you to get this straight. It is the muslims who aren't violent who are the real radicals! Because they are going against what their religion teaches them. And that piece of shit goody two shoes Biden wants to lift the travel restrictions on those scum. You know, there have been instances of muslim fathers here in the U.S. who actually murdered their daughters for acting "Western." All of those worthless motherfuckers need to be impaled! Thank god or whatever for Brenton Tarrant! I will show you some pictures of the aftermath of the Beslan school siege. If you still have no problems with the muslims, you suck FAR more than being a Trump supporter makes you suck.

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As an added bonus, I will show you a couple pictures of muslim scum who were given asylum in Europe. One is of a child. You can see their back stabbing gratitude as they give beheading gestures to the camera.

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