Coronavirus gone in 3 weeks.

[Geeko Sportivo]

An interesting hallucination you have there. Also, just how long have you been a homicidal maniac. Is over 243,000 people dead from the coronavirus not enough for you? Also, from everything I have been seeing on the news, hospitals aren't doing well. Some even worse. And they're having to ship in freezer trucks to many places just to hold the dead.

Hawkeye is one of those guys that his walleye is connected to his asshole and he has a shitty outlook on life!

 

[overall]

It depends what you mean by "real difference." A lockdown that did not wipe out the disease would definitely buy us time, and would make the next step in trying to control the disease more manageable. If we did not take advantage of that time, and lower numbers to do something good, we would be back in the same situation a few months later.

Lately, Covid-19 has been often doubling every two weeks, so lets use that as an assumed number(just as an example). If we can reduce the number of daily cases to 100, that would be a traceable number, if we had a contact trace system. That would also buy us time. But if we did nothing other than reduce the number of daily cases to 100, then it would double every two weeks, and 20 weeks later(5 months or so), we would be back at 100,000.

The real difference would be the disappearance of the coronavirus in the U.S. and whatever country was on board with the plan. Obviously, normal lockdowns don't work. At least not for long. So I think my alternative is the best plan. It would also give vaccines and improved, faster testing time to catch up.

 

[Saudade]

You voted for Trump?! With his refusal to face reality (not that I think he ever did to begin with) and concede defeat, I bet you feel pretty stupid now.

No, he's doing what he should. We need to investigate the votes more, and as we do so, more evidence is arising that casts doubts on the election and our system overall. He's not going to win as a result, but the investigations will get the right dialogue going among much of the population. Vote security should be something Republicans push over the next few years, or otherwise, they can expect to lose a lot more seats to Democrats in 2024. We already know the media favors Democrats, but we can't let the system itself do that through fraud.

Next, I TOLD you some of what muslims are like. If you don't have a problem with them, you're delusional. They are only responsible for about 95% of the terrorist attacks around the world. And look at when they attacked a school in Russia. The Beslan school siege. Around 334 people were killed. More than half were children. Also, their version of jesus, mohammed, was a pedophile. He married a 6 year old girl. I don't know how many blow jobs she gave, but the marriage was officially consummated when she was 9. With the koran promoting violence as it does, I want you to get this straight. It is the muslims who aren't violent who are the real radicals! Because they are going against what their religion teaches them. And that piece of shit goody two shoes Biden wants to lift the travel restrictions on those scum. You know, there have been instances of muslim fathers here in the U.S. who actually murdered their daughters for acting "Western." All of those worthless motherfuckers need to be impaled! Thank god or whatever for Brenton Tarrant! I will show you some pictures of the aftermath of the Beslan school siege. If you still have no problems with the muslims, you suck FAR more than being a Trump supporter makes you suck.

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As an added bonus, I will show you a couple pictures of muslim scum who were given asylum in Europe. One is of a child. You can see their back stabbing gratitude as they give beheading gestures to the camera.

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So, you're against the killing of innocents, but you celebrate Brenton Tarrant.... You're quite unhinged.

 

[overall]

No, he's doing what he should. We need to investigate the votes more, and as we do so, more evidence is arising that casts doubts on the election and our system overall. He's not going to win as a result, but the investigations will get the right dialogue going among much of the population. Vote security should be something Republicans push over the next few years, or otherwise, they can expect to lose a lot more seats to Democrats in 2024. We already know the media favors Democrats, but we can't let the system itself do that through fraud.



So, you're against the killing of innocents, but you celebrate Brenton Tarrant.... You're quite unhinged.

No muslim is innocent. If you heard them tell you something that makes you think otherwise, you were listening to LIES. I suggest that you not do that. There very religion tells them to tell you lies. I will give you a couple examples. In the koran 3:54 it says, "and Allah is the best of deceivers." In the koran 7:99 it says, "no one feels safe from Allah's deception except for those that shall perish." So if the god they worship is such a fucking liar, what do you think that makes his worshipers. Such lies have gotten those scum into Europe. I found a couple different statistics for what that has cost the people of Sweden. (for example) Neither one is good. One statistic says that 95.6% of the rapes in Sweden are committed my muslims. Another says that 77% of the rapes in Sweden are caused by their 2% muslim population. I will show you some pictures of White women assaulted by muslims.




If anybody around here is unhinged, it is YOU! Deal with it. Then change.

 

[Walt]

The real difference would be the disappearance of the coronavirus in the U.S. and whatever country was on board with the plan. Obviously, normal lockdowns don't work. At least not for long. So I think my alternative is the best plan. It would also give vaccines and improved, faster testing time to catch up.

Many things work, but none of them well, yet. Everyone would prefer we use other means... But sadly, Republicans have been against any means of preventing the pandemic, so we are sort of screwed.

Test and trace is probably the best current method, along with social distancing and masks. trump put no effort into test and trace, and now the pandemic is completely out of control. The world has locked down our international borders, so we are stewing in our own disease. No one is coming to save us, and they are certainly not going to open their borders with us until we start making an effort. trump was never going to make an effort.

 

[TOP]

Many things work, but none of them well, yet. Everyone would prefer we use other means... But sadly, Republicans have been against any means of preventing the pandemic, so we are sort of screwed.

Test and trace is probably the best current method, along with social distancing and masks. trump put no effort into test and trace, and now the pandemic is completely out of control. The world has locked down our international borders, so we are stewing in our own disease. No one is coming to save us, and they are certainly not going to open their borders with us until we start making an effort. trump was never going to make an effort.

Without the president, there would be no vaccines soon to be available.... Will you get them? Guess, according to Joe, it depends if you live in one of the "priority" areas...or are a "priority minority"....
If it was up to Joe, you'd be close to last in line, right?

 

[Walt]

Without the president, there would be no vaccines soon to be available

The first vaccine so far has come from Germany, and avoided dealing with trump, because he is a mess. The second came from Britain, and only had secondary dealing with trump, because he is a mess. I don't count the Russian vaccine, which probably does not work, but also was not through trump.

The trump administration has failed to understand that the vaccines might have to be kept very cold. This means the USA is well behind the rest of the world if we use one of the very cold vaccines.

Guess, according to Joe, it depends if you live in one of the "priority" areas...or are a "priority minority"....If it was up to Joe, you'd be close to last in line, right?

You are openly delusional.

The vaccine is supposed to first go to people in the medical fields, elderly, or with a comorbidity. Nothing about "priority areas" or "priority minorities". Those are lines from Russian propaganda... Odd how you readily spout it.

I personally would not be at the front of the line, but I also would not be at the back of the line.

 

[TOP]

The first vaccine so far has come from Germany, and avoided dealing with trump, because he is a mess. The second came from Britain, and only had secondary dealing with trump, because he is a mess. I don't count the Russian vaccine, which probably does not work, but also was not through trump.

The trump administration has failed to understand that the vaccines might have to be kept very cold. This means the USA is well behind the rest of the world if we use one of the very cold vaccines.



You are openly delusional.

The vaccine is supposed to first go to people in the medical fields, elderly, or with a comorbidity. Nothing about "priority areas" or "priority minorities". Those are lines from Russian propaganda... Odd how you readily spout it.

I personally would not be at the front of the line, but I also would not be at the back of the line.

Do you have a Walgreens in town? If so, you go to the back of the line. From Joe...not Russia....yesterday..
I hope they name the vaccine in honor of President Trump....

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Isn't it interesting that Covid19 apparently appeared in Italy well before it reached China! Did Trumpf visit that country round last September?

 

[Walt]

Do you have a Walgreens in town? If so, you go to the back of the line

Funny story about Walgreens. Around here, they have had signs saying "The Covid-19 vaccine is not here, yet" for several months now. trump worshipers have been going into the Walgreens around here and accusing them of hoarding vaccines they do not have.

Walgreens does not have the infrastructure to store -70 degrees vaccines. Maybe some of the warmer vaccines will be easier. Walgreens also wants no part in given double vaccines.

More importantly, Walgreens in a town has never been stated to be an impediment to getting any vaccine. That would just be a weird rumor you heard somewhere.

I am getting weekly Covid-19 tests for the last few weeks, mandated in part by the Department of Commerce. That would in theory move me up in the line.

And even if Walgreens moved you to the back of the line... There are nearly 10,000 Walgreens in America, so everyone would be at the back of the line. In other words, it would not be the back of the line.

 

[TOP]

Funny story about Walgreens. Around here, they have had signs saying "The Covid-19 vaccine is not here, yet" for several months now. trump worshipers have been going into the Walgreens around here and accusing them of hoarding vaccines they do not have.

Walgreens does not have the infrastructure to store -70 degrees vaccines. Maybe some of the warmer vaccines will be easier. Walgreens also wants no part in given double vaccines.

More importantly, Walgreens in a town has never been stated to be an impediment to getting any vaccine. That would just be a weird rumor you heard somewhere.

I am getting weekly Covid-19 tests for the last few weeks, mandated in part by the Department of Commerce. That would in theory move me up in the line.

And even if Walgreens moved you to the back of the line... There are nearly 10,000 Walgreens in America, so everyone would be at the back of the line. In other words, it would not be the back of the line.

I'm just telling you what Joe said Yesterday....

 

[Walt]

I'm just telling you what Joe said Yesterday....

If Biden really did say that any town with a Walgreens would not get vaccines, then you would be able to prove it.... We won't hold our breaths.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello and welcome overall,

I have created personal rules for this forum which are more stringent than the forum rules.

Please make note of my Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.

If that is agreeable, and I hope it is, I hope we have many great discussions. If not, then we won't be talking long.

I put this here because fighting the coronavirus is a political issue. I hear they will soon be coming out with a coronavirus vaccine. But it has many problems. On the other hand, we could be completely free from the coronavirus in just 3 weeks. In a relatively painless way. Compare to that to 9+ months we have been dealing with this problem. And the way things are looking, vaccine or not, we will be facing another lock down. Here is my plan.

Hopefully there is going to be another round of $1200 dollar stimulus checks. (Though after so many months have passed since the last one, it should be more) People should be told to use this money to buy everything they might need with the money to last them for 3 weeks. (And not give the money to whoever they may owe money to) To avoid any shortages, give then 4 to 6 weeks to do it in. Then do one last lock down. A REAL lock down this time. Shut just about everything down. Except for highly necessary things like hospitals, water, electric and sewage plants. It might also be necessary to keep a few stores open. So people can buy emergency things or things not planned for. But just about everything else would close down. Also, stop any traffic between cities. Except for people working at the necessary places.

Also, to make this economically doable, any rent or mortgage payments should be suspended for 3 weeks. Neither would people have to pay for utility or cable bills for this period. In short, it would be 3 short weeks of socialism. Then we can get back to normal capitalism. Which because of the coronavirus hasn't been doing too well anyway. Then after these 3 weeks, people won't even have to look at another mask again. There will be no need for a coronavirus vaccine. There wouldn't be any need for a flu vaccine either. Teachers and children could safely go back to school. And bars or restaurants could pack in as many people as they could hold. Though to make all this work, we need to get other nations on board with it. Otherwise, in the long run, it won't do much good.

Great idea, but unrealistic. People who resent government will not comply.

This idea is doomed to failure.

But thanks for trying.

We need more creative ideas.

I appreciate the thought.

Keep trying.

It has to be something practical.

I would like to see more stringent enforcement.

Mask laws. Distancing laws. Limited numbers of shoppers in stores. Tickets for violators. Plainclothes cops writing people up.

 

[TOP]

If Biden really did say that any town with a Walgreens would not get vaccines, then you would be able to prove it.... We won't hold our breaths.

I didn't say he said that....He mentioned Walgreens not being accessible to the priority minorities... Nothing against Walgreens, though

Find his press conference from yesterday and listen to it...

 

[Walt]

I didn't say he said that....He mentioned Walgreens not being accessible to the priority minorities... Nothing against Walgreens, though

Find his press conference from yesterday and listen to it...

So we are back to you asking me to find him saying things I say he never said. OK, you prove trump said he was a little girl who wears dresses.

 

[TOP]

So we are back to you asking me to find him saying things I say he never said. OK, you prove trump said he was a little girl who wears dresses.

If you don't think he said it, I'm ok with that...you missed it, though Yesterday afternoon......
I'm not sure what the dresses comment has to do with this

 

[overall]

Many things work, but none of them well, yet. Everyone would prefer we use other means... But sadly, Republicans have been against any means of preventing the pandemic, so we are sort of screwed.

Test and trace is probably the best current method, along with social distancing and masks. trump put no effort into test and trace, and now the pandemic is completely out of control. The world has locked down our international borders, so we are stewing in our own disease. No one is coming to save us, and they are certainly not going to open their borders with us until we start making an effort. trump was never going to make an effort.

Well my plan would work. Just as advertised. The proof is that lock downs or shut downs do put a dent in the spread of the coronavirus. Having a REAL shutdown, one that people would be prepared for and therefore be more accepting of, would wipe the virus right out. Next, Trump did make an effort about testing. An effort to stop it!!! The mass murdering scumbag.

 

[Althea]

I put this here because fighting the coronavirus is a political issue. I hear they will soon be coming out with a coronavirus vaccine. But it has many problems. On the other hand, we could be completely free from the coronavirus in just 3 weeks. In a relatively painless way. Compare to that to 9+ months we have been dealing with this problem. And the way things are looking, vaccine or not, we will be facing another lock down. Here is my plan.

Hopefully there is going to be another round of $1200 dollar stimulus checks. (Though after so many months have passed since the last one, it should be more) People should be told to use this money to buy everything they might need with the money to last them for 3 weeks. (And not give the money to whoever they may owe money to) To avoid any shortages, give then 4 to 6 weeks to do it in. Then do one last lock down. A REAL lock down this time. Shut just about everything down. Except for highly necessary things like hospitals, water, electric and sewage plants. It might also be necessary to keep a few stores open. So people can buy emergency things or things not planned for. But just about everything else would close down. Also, stop any traffic between cities. Except for people working at the necessary places.

Also, to make this economically doable, any rent or mortgage payments should be suspended for 3 weeks. Neither would people have to pay for utility or cable bills for this period. In short, it would be 3 short weeks of socialism. Then we can get back to normal capitalism. Which because of the coronavirus hasn't been doing too well anyway. Then after these 3 weeks, people won't even have to look at another mask again. There will be no need for a coronavirus vaccine. There wouldn't be any need for a flu vaccine either. Teachers and children could safely go back to school. And bars or restaurants could pack in as many people as they could hold. Though to make all this work, we need to get other nations on board with it. Otherwise, in the long run, it won't do much good.

Banks want their mortgage payments from landlords. School taxes were just paid, and property taxes are due in January. Not paying rent might help some, but harm others.

 

[overall]

Without the president, there would be no vaccines soon to be available.... Will you get them? Guess, according to Joe, it depends if you live in one of the "priority" areas...or are a "priority minority"....
If it was up to Joe, you'd be close to last in line, right?

Without the president, there would have been no need for a vaccine.

 

[Bulletbob]

I put this here because fighting the coronavirus is a political issue. I hear they will soon be coming out with a coronavirus vaccine. But it has many problems. On the other hand, we could be completely free from the coronavirus in just 3 weeks. In a relatively painless way. Compare to that to 9+ months we have been dealing with this problem. And the way things are looking, vaccine or not, we will be facing another lock down. Here is my plan.

Hopefully there is going to be another round of $1200 dollar stimulus checks. (Though after so many months have passed since the last one, it should be more) People should be told to use this money to buy everything they might need with the money to last them for 3 weeks. (And not give the money to whoever they may owe money to) To avoid any shortages, give then 4 to 6 weeks to do it in. Then do one last lock down. A REAL lock down this time. Shut just about everything down. Except for highly necessary things like hospitals, water, electric and sewage plants. It might also be necessary to keep a few stores open. So people can buy emergency things or things not planned for. But just about everything else would close down. Also, stop any traffic between cities. Except for people working at the necessary places.

Also, to make this economically doable, any rent or mortgage payments should be suspended for 3 weeks. Neither would people have to pay for utility or cable bills for this period. In short, it would be 3 short weeks of socialism. Then we can get back to normal capitalism. Which because of the coronavirus hasn't been doing too well anyway. Then after these 3 weeks, people won't even have to look at another mask again. There will be no need for a coronavirus vaccine. There wouldn't be any need for a flu vaccine either. Teachers and children could safely go back to school. And bars or restaurants could pack in as many people as they could hold. Though to make all this work, we need to get other nations on board with it. Otherwise, in the long run, it won't do much good.

how will it end in 3 weeks that just not going to happen.Yes there will be a need for a vaccine , covid is just a form of the flu .Its spread around the world. Unless we totally close our boarders and let no one out or in again there can alway be another invection it only takes one person who may not even have symptons.