Could Zelensky and Putin start World War III?

glen_kirk

glen_kirk

It appears that Trump has already made deals with Zelensky and Putin. Yet, reports show that Russia and Ukraine are still attacking energy facilities. Some media sources claim that Ukraine is not honoring the agreements made in the UAE. But what do you think? Can we stop the conflict from escalating further, or are we on the verge of World War III? Let us know your thoughts!
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glen_kirk said:
It appears that Trump has already made deals with Zelensky and Putin. Yet, reports show that Russia and Ukraine are still attacking energy facilities. Some media sources claim that Ukraine is not honoring the agreements made in the UAE. But what do you think? Can we stop the conflict from escalating further, or are we on the verge of World War III? Let us know your thoughts!
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I'm not sure who you're referring to by "we", but it seems that Trump has no interest in starting World War III. So long as that holds, I doubt it'll happen.
 
The Russians are honoring the deal, the Ukrainians are not.

The Bandera's are perfectly willing to destroy everything, as we see with the Ukrainian idea to destroy their own nuclear power plants creating a radiation disaster if they decide that they have lost this war.

The Ukrainians are like rabid dogs....the Russians are the Good Guys.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The Russians are honoring the deal, the Ukrainians are not.

The Bandera's are perfectly willing to destroy everything, as we see with the Ukrainian idea to destroy their own nuclear power plants creating a radiation disaster if they decide that they have lost this war.

The Ukrainians are like rabid dogs....the Russians are the Good Guys.
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How can you be so crazy? Is life in Russia good for you?
 
Nordberg said:
Hawkeye10 said:
The Russians are honoring the deal, the Ukrainians are not.

The Bandera's are perfectly willing to destroy everything, as we see with the Ukrainian idea to destroy their own nuclear power plants creating a radiation disaster if they decide that they have lost this war.

The Ukrainians are like rabid dogs....the Russians are the Good Guys.
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How can you be so crazy?
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He's actually right, but I know that the western mainstream media would have you believe otherwise.
 
Scott said:
Oh believe me, it could be so, so much worse. There are actually TV series that explore just how much worse it could be. One I started watching not too long ago called Fallout is a good example.
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Anybody who gets blown to smithereens today
won't have to try to get through tomorrow.

I've been to war.
Dying isn't what one fears.
One fears getting really fucked up and living.

We've lived in dystopia since January...November, actually.
I wouldn't compromise on one single principle to avoid WW III,
but Civil War II will probably come first.

Nothing is more intolerable for civilized people than the present shit show.
What we've allowed to happen to our nation is shameful.
We're certainly not getting a pass for that, so some sort of war is likely.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Scott said:
Oh believe me, it could be so, so much worse. There are actually TV series that explore just how much worse it could be. One I started watching not too long ago called Fallout is a good example.
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Anybody who gets blown to smithereens today
won't have to try to get through tomorrow.

I've been to war.
Dying isn't what one fears.
One fears getting really fucked up and living.

We've lived in dystopia since January...November, actually.
I wouldn't compromise on one single principle to avoid WW III,
but Civil War II will probably come first.

Nothing is more intolerable for civilized people than the present shit show.
What we've allowed to happen to our nation is shameful.
We're certainly not getting a pass for that, so some sort of war is likely.
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I suspect we may not be talking about the same things here. I'm referring to the possibility of a nuclear war with Russia, China, or a combination of the 2. What's happening in the United States under Trump certainly involves a lot of serious problems, but at least he is -trying- to make a peace deal with Russia, which is far more than could be said about the Biden Administration.
 
Scott said:
I suspect we may not be talking about the same things here. I'm referring to the possibility of a nuclear war with Russia, China, or a combination of the 2. What's happening in the United States under Trump certainly involves a lot of serious problems, but at least he is -trying- to make a peace deal with Russia, which is far more than could be said about the Biden Administration.
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Lest anyone forget that this war between Ukraine and Russia would have never happened if Trump had been president during the initial start of biden's feckless rigged presidency. Once Putin saw that the feckless do-nothing biden became potus then he marched some 150 or so thousand
troops up to Ukraines border to start attacking them at will.
 
Libhater said:
Lest anyone forget that this war between Ukraine and Russia would have never happened if Trump had been president during the initial start of biden's feckless rigged presidency. Once Putin saw that the feckless do-nothing biden became potus then he marched some 150 or so thousand
troops up to Ukraines border to start attacking them at will.
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Had Trump been President this might have been solved without military conflict but not because Biden was weak and Trump is strong, but because under the Wall Street Mafia/CIA so-called Biden Administration (Biden was President in name only) we demanded that Russia take military action....the Imperial Empire wanted war....which had Trump been in the Oval he possibly would have been able to stop.
 
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Russia waited to the last minute to go in with their military....they were watching over the years (including during the Trump years) as NATO built up their army in Ukraine....by early 2022 the Russians evaluated that NATO's Army was ready for their long planned massive strike into Donbass, so they struck first to prevent it, by getting a deal....that was the objective.....a deal not taking Ukraine which the Russians never wanted.....as proven by the Istanbul agreement.
 
The only thing that would have worked is a deal that left the Russians believing that NATO's Army in Ukraine would not attack the Donbass......could Trump have pulled that off?......Maybe.....at that point the Russians were still willing to believe us a bit.....still believed that we might honor our word.

Those days are over.
 
The Western Leaders and Ukrainians have admitted that the Minsk agreement was a sham that they never intended to honor.....its soul purpose from the Imperial Empire's perspective was gaining more time to build up NATO's army in Ukraine.

Minsk was just one in a long list of lies we have told the Russians.

There is a penalty for that.
 
goat said:
It's more likely that Benzion Mileikowsky will start WW3.
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My grapevine tends to think that it will be the Americans who start nuclear war, because although we are constantly warring our conventional military is a hollowed out mess....we will have to decide to admit that we lost or we will have to go nuclear.....and the last two years of watching America every day need to decide between admitting that we lost in Ukraine or escalation is a really bad sign for how that would go.
 
Remember too that it is highly likely that we are getting ready to drop Nukes on Iran....which would be insane especially because the justification is lie......but that is where we are.
 
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