Court Clears Way for Egg Rights Showdown

so will we get tax deductions from the time of inception if this passes the courts ?
And if you have sex with a pregnant woman is that sexual child abuse ?
 
Dilloduck said:
Scott Peterson ?
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First, that was a fetus, not a zygote. Big difference. More importantly, though, the secondary murder charges were an effort to "pile it on" to a defendant everyone in the system already hated.

It's a common phenomenon. Prosecutors tend to file every charge they possibly can in order to increase their chances of getting a conviction on something.

Scott Peterson is in prison for murdering his wife. Charges for "murdering" the fetus were just a means of increasing the likelihood of a conviction and the severity of the sentence.
 
AssHatZombie said:
But neither of them separately are capable of developing into full human. Any mass of cells which IF LEFT ALONE will develop into a human, is a human.

sorry. You're an idiot.
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Leave a zygote alone and it will rapidly turn into a pinprick of dead cells. A zygote needs the nurture of a mother's womb, idiot. Or didn't you know that? Is your mommy still telling you that the stork brought you?
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Leave a zygote alone and it will rapidly turn into a pinprick of dead cells. A zygote needs the nurture of a mother's womb, idiot. Or didn't you know that? Is your mommy still telling you that the stork brought you?
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asshat seems to think we have artificial wombs like in the Matrix movie....
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Zealotry. They're trying to increase fury at "Bad Guys" and extend their prison sentences. That's all.
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oh yes. BAD GUYS in quotes. as if someone who kills his wife and unborn child is being "unfairly smeared". you're a joke. stop posting. You're embarrasing yourself.
 
Dilloduck said:
LMAO---right--it's a hate crime for someone else to kill a mass of cells but a choice if the host mother chooses it to be killed by a doctor. That's like saying a nigger can say "nigger" but no one else can .
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Can you name even one instance in which an American has been charged with killing a zygote -- or even a fetus -- and not with killing the mother?
 
AssHatZombie said:
oh yes. BAD GUYS in quotes. as if someone who kills his wife and unborn child is being "unfairly smeared". you're a joke. stop posting. You're embarrasing yourself.
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I did not say "unfairly smeared", you did. You really need therapy, AHZ: your memory problems are getting worse and worse all the time.

The fact is that charges for "murdering" (sic) a fetus are always brought as a means of enhancing the case against a (suspected) woman-killer. No one is prosecuted just for "murdering" an early term fetus, and very rarely -- if ever -- for a late term fetus.
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Leave a zygote alone and it will rapidly turn into a pinprick of dead cells. A zygote needs the nurture of a mother's womb, idiot. Or didn't you know that? Is your mommy still telling you that the stork brought you?
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at that phase it's parasitic. Many parasites will die if removed form their host. That doesn't meant they're not living organisms. You're dumb.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Im sure we have the technology. And i would bet my life that we have done this in an "eyes only" fashion.
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We do not, I can assure you. The best we've been able to accomplish is a tiny handful of implantations in male humans and, I believe, other apes.

I'll tell you what, Ass: why don't you go down to the local abortion clinic and volunteer to be the surrogate host for an embryo that would otherwise go down the drain? Hey, you'd be a minor celebrity.
 
OrnotBitwise said:
We do not, I can assure you. The best we've been able to accomplish is a tiny handful of implantations in male humans and, I believe, other apes.

I'll tell you what, Ass: why don't you go down to the local abortion clinic and volunteer to be the surrogate host for an embryo that would otherwise go down the drain? Hey, you'd be a minor celebrity.
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Like you know. STFU.
 
AssHatZombie said:
at that phase it's parasitic. Many parasites will die if removed form their host. That doesn't meant they're not living organisms. You're dumb.
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The fact that it is a living organism is immaterial. The question is whether it is a Human Being -- note the capitalization: it is deliberate, as we're not talking about something that is merely alive and of the species Homo sapiens here -- with full legal rights. That question cannot be resolved by biology as it is an entirely ethical issue.
 
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