Creationist child abusers close doors

PostmodernProphet said:
since the purpose of the flood was to punish disobedience, I doubt the plan was to drown all the animals.....at least I've never heard anyone argue they were disobedient.....was that your intent?.......
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My intent is to get a straight answer from you, troll. So, there were many land animals that survived the flood that were not upon the ark?

If that is your position, then your moronic theology (which is clearly extra biblical) has no relevance at all to the diversity of life or evolution.
 
Professor Baxter said:
No, the fossil record destroy your idiotic claims that these changes all happened over single generations or at some pace accelerated by a magical ghost.
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lol....fossils are static.....they tell us nothing about change....that is the fantasy you impose upon them.....

If the Bible is not an accurate historical record then you have no proof for any of the nonsense you are spewing.
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you see, that is the difference between us.....I acknowledge that I act upon faith and not proof......you make shit up and pretend you have it.....

No, I suppose you are adding to the Bible because neither it's literal or poetic stories support what you are suggesting.
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I'm not adding to the Bible either....I readily acknowledge (and have in the process of this debate) that the Bible does not speak on many issues.....I merely provide logical conclusions based upon the scientific facts available.....for example, that manipulating DNA would permit the expansion of a single genome into hundreds of species of animal over a short period of time......that is not adding to the Bible, that is drawing a conclusion from science......
 
Professor Baxter said:
My intent is to get a straight answer from you, troll. So, there were many land animals that survived the flood that were not upon the ark?
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how should I know......I was not there, the Bible says nothing about it, there is no historical record......

If that is your position, then your moronic theology (which is clearly extra biblical) has no relevance at all to the diversity of life or evolution
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interesting point......my theology, which is entirely biblical, tells me that God created time, matter, energy, the stars, the planets, earth in particular, life, plants, fish, mammals, people......he created them with the ability to adapt to environmental changes......my theology is compatible with diversity of life and evolution......my beliefs are of course directly contradictory to yours, since you believe that nothing was created, that life evolved as a result of millions of random events that brought about the diversity of life through macro-evolution....in any sense that the word can be used, either both of our belief systems are "relevant" to diversity of life and evolution, or they are both not......your beliefs have no greater affinity to the scientific facts of evolution than mine do......
 
PMP , are you suggesting that animals survived the flood and therefore not only the animals on the ark went on to replenish the earth? Interesting theory if you are!

I know your bible says nothing about it but you seem to be suggesting that it was a possibility.
 
monty1 said:
I know your bible says nothing about it but you seem to be suggesting that it was a possibility.
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the bible also does not say he killed them all.....that which is not impossible is possible........the alternative is that you want me to believe God wiped out every last butterfly because of man's disobedience.........not consistent......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lol....fossils are static.....they tell us nothing about change....that is the fantasy you impose upon them.....


you see, that is the difference between us.....I acknowledge that I act upon faith and not proof......you make shit up and pretend you have it.....



I'm not adding to the Bible either....I readily acknowledge (and have in the process of this debate) that the Bible does not speak on many issues.....I merely provide logical conclusions based upon the scientific facts available.....for example, that manipulating DNA would permit the expansion of a single genome into hundreds of species of animal over a short period of time......that is not adding to the Bible, that is drawing a conclusion from science......
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The fossils contradict your claims about all of cat kind coming from one species of cat in a short window of time. Lions, first appeared over a million years ago. Tigers, 2 million years ago. Leopards, 2 to 3.5 million years ago and the last basal member common to panthera (not felidae, but panthera or the big cats) was berlieved to exist over 6 million years ago

You are the only one making shit up. You have your biblical fairy tales and you try to force the data to fit. When that does not work you fudge the fairy tale or ignore the data that contradicts your story.

You are adding to the bible. There is nothing in it to support your nonsense about one species of cat kind (or the other kinds) and God creating variety from there through some miraculous methods. Even if there were, it does not fit the data. It is just something you and idiot creationists like Ham added to the Bible to try to solve the logistical problems of getting every species on to the ark but it creates more problems. It's not useful or valid as science. It's not even that good of an example of fiction or "poetry." It's just the juvenile nonsense and desperate lying of one who can't accept that his tall tales do not add up.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
how should I know......I was not there, the Bible says nothing about it, there is no historical record......



interesting point......my theology, which is entirely biblical, tells me that God created time, matter, energy, the stars, the planets, earth in particular, life, plants, fish, mammals, people......he created them with the ability to adapt to environmental changes......my theology is compatible with diversity of life and evolution......my beliefs are of course directly contradictory to yours, since you believe that nothing was created, that life evolved as a result of millions of random events that brought about the diversity of life through macro-evolution....in any sense that the word can be used, either both of our belief systems are "relevant" to diversity of life and evolution, or they are both not......your beliefs have no greater affinity to the scientific facts of evolution than mine do......
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You should know because you are attempting to make every piece of data fit in with this ridiculously implausible and totally unsubstantiated story. We can just dismiss the whole thing as unreliable.

Your theology is not biblical. You are some sort of cultist with delusions of your own greatness.
 
Professor Baxter said:
No, the fossil record destroy your idiotic claims that these changes all happened over single generations or at some pace accelerated by a magical ghost.

You reject science by claiming the magical ghost did by willing it.

If the Bible is not an accurate historical record then you have no proof for any of the nonsense you are spewing.

No, I suppose you are adding to the Bible because neither it's literal or poetic stories support what you are suggesting. You are not a Christian. You are sort of like a Mormon.
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Not even a Mormon, who believe God the Father is a living God. I don't know where his beliefs come from, I have never heard anyone state that their god is not a living God, it is bizarre. I knew he had some strange ideas, but that one floored me.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
the bible also does not say he killed them all.....that which is not impossible is possible........the alternative is that you want me to believe God wiped out every last butterfly because of man's disobedience.........not consistent......
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Bawhahahaha, how could they survive if the whole world was covered in water?

This is what I love about Biblical literalist, they come up with the most outrageous theories!

The Lord in his goodness herded the butterflies to the top of Mt Everest so that they would be safe for the 40 days, flood story #1 or they would be safe for 150 days, flood story #2.

The Lord in his goodness saved the butterflies, but drowned all the children, because the sins of their fathers or mothers
 
Rana said:
Not even a Mormon, who believe God the Father is a living God. I don't know where his beliefs come from, I have never heard anyone state that their god is not a living God, it is bizarre. I knew he had some strange ideas, but that one floored me.
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Well, I say he is like a Mormon because he seems to include the old and new testaments but then adds to and goes beyond them. It's sort of like bad FanLit. PostChristianProphet is the handle he should have used.
 
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