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The fossils contradict your claims about all of cat kind coming from one species of cat in a short window of time. Lions, first appeared over a million years ago. Tigers, 2 million years ago. Leopards, 2 to 3.5 million years ago and the last basal member common to panthera (not felidae, but panthera or the big cats) was berlieved to exist over 6 million years ago

You are the only one making shit up. You have your biblical fairy tales and you try to force the data to fit. When that does not work you fudge the fairy tale or ignore the data that contradicts your story.

/shrugs.....since you've told me the flood occurred within the last 60,000 years I expect those fossils were already fossils by then.....

You are adding to the bible. There is nothing in it to support your nonsense about one species of cat kind (or the other kinds) and God creating variety from there through some miraculous methods.

you consider gene manipulation miraculous?......I believe its science.....
 
Yeah, that is when I compared them to you. It was not about you. You attempted to make it about you.

Was it 20 pages? It was well into the thread.

are you saying the thread didn't have a topic until page 26?....because that's when you told us what the thread topic was......does starting threads without topics until the 26th page make you a troll?.......

What's the thread topic? Pos like you are abusing children by attempting to brainwashing them with this silly nonsense and all you can do is whine about someone shining a light on it.
 
Not even a Mormon, who believe God the Father is a living God. I don't know where his beliefs come from, I have never heard anyone state that their god is not a living God, it is bizarre. I knew he had some strange ideas, but that one floored me.

what's his blood pressure?.....does he need meds?.....he has to be pretty old, right?.....
 
the bible also does not say he killed them all.....that which is not impossible is possible........the alternative is that you want me to believe God wiped out every last butterfly because of man's disobedience.........not consistent......


Genesis 6:17
English Standard Version (ESV)
17*For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven. Everything that is on the earth shall die.
 
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/shrugs.....since you've told me the flood occurred within the last 60,000 years I expect those fossils were already fossils by then.....

you consider gene manipulation miraculous?......I believe its science.....

You are a liar. I told you NO world wide flood occurred. I was trying to get you to come up with some broadly defined date which fit into your narrative, but you are too much of a coward for that.

Exactly, the fossils do not fit your story. The diversity in "cat kind" occurred long before any flood that could have involved homo sapiens or any member of the homo genus. This has been pointed out to you multiple times.

You are attempting to drop context. Simple gene manipulation by humans is not a miracle. Gene manipulation that would account for the diversity of cat species in a single generation by some sort of disembodied super ghost would certainly be some sort of miracle.
 
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Wow, besides a bad cut and paste job, what is this?
 
are you saying the thread didn't have a topic until page 26?....because that's when you told us what the thread topic was......does starting threads without topics until the 26th page make you a troll?.......

The thread topic was communicated in the initial post. I compared the school operators to you on page 26 after many pages of your trolling.

Quit deluding yourself. It was not about you. You are not the persecuted messiah. You are just some dumbass troll.
 
He is immortal according to the Mormons, he is a Spiritual being, according to most other Christian religions, except yours, whatever that is.

In John, don't recall the chapter and verse Jesus claims, "God is Spirit". Genesis also claims we were made in the image of God.

God according to most Christians exists, has life, is a living Spirit, Mormons believe he is a physical being, immortal.
 
the bible also does not say he killed them all.....that which is not impossible is possible........the alternative is that you want me to believe God wiped out every last butterfly because of man's disobedience.........not consistent......

No, I don't want you to believe anything. I'm only familiar with the story from the bible which does suggest that everything was wiped out except fish. I think it's fair to say that lots of smaller lifeforms which could survive on the higher ground would have survived. Bacteria certainly.
 
Nope. This world wide flood never happened. It is a fairy tale and of no significance. You, Ken Ham and the school operators insist that is an important part of the science.

I think it is entirely likely or even highly likely that there were floods on the earth and that those floods would have wiped out some of the animals but far from all. This could be consistent with PMP's beliefs.
 
I think it is entirely likely or even highly likely that there were floods on the earth and that those floods would have wiped out some of the animals but far from all. This could be consistent with PMP's beliefs.

Local floods are a fact, but he believes it was worldwide.
 
No, I don't want you to believe anything. I'm only familiar with the story from the bible which does suggest that everything was wiped out except fish. I think it's fair to say that lots of smaller lifeforms which could survive on the higher ground would have survived. Bacteria certainly.

Even the fish would not live, fresh water species can not live in salt water and vice versa. Plant life would also be destroyed, they would have had to take seeds of every kind as well, specially if the flood lasted 150 days as one of the stories contends.
 
Even the fish would not live, fresh water species can not live in salt water and vice versa. Plant life would also be destroyed, they would have had to take seeds of every kind as well, specially if the flood lasted 150 days as one of the stories contends.

Stick with facts that are true facts. Some fish would live in diluted salt water. Some salt water species can live in fresh water. Some plant life would have survived and would have diversified into new species. Let's not try to throw out science in order to argue against creation.
 
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