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wait.....the guy who said at least a half dozen times it didn't believe it had to be worldwide believes it was worldwide......how enlightening....

I really don't know what you believe to tell you the truth, you argue in one place it wasn't, then in another make statement which lead me to believe you do think it was worldwide. It is why it is impossible to debate you, I can't pin you down to what you actually believe. You switch arguments when it suits you.
 
How is he reconciling it to make it not a myth? He won't even narrow the date of this supposed event within tens of thousands of years. Were all the species on the ark, one of each kind or were the animals not even relevant as he now seems to be claiming. PMP is just trolling and trying to promote his fairy tales.

Try to stay away from the 'trolling' accusations. If you truly thought that then there would be no point in debating further. PMP is showing a lack of conciseness which could be the result of confusion or perhaps an unwillingness to make statements he doesn't consider to be proven fact.
 
I really don't know what you believe to tell you the truth, you argue in one place it wasn't, then in another make statement which lead me to believe you do think it was worldwide. It is why it is impossible to debate you, I can't pin you down to what you actually believe. You switch arguments when it suits you.

Remember what I said about spelling three letter words? Sorry but it irks me that so many Americans can't do it right.

LED, and it's pronounced the same as the metal 'lead'.
 
I really don't know what you believe to tell you the truth, you argue in one place it wasn't, then in another make statement which lead me to believe you do think it was worldwide. It is why it is impossible to debate you, I can't pin you down to what you actually believe. You switch arguments when it suits you.

not true......its just that you want me to say something stupid so you can say "See! I told you Christians were stupid!"....... you can't point to a single thing I said that would have made you think I believed there was a worldwide flood......you just wanted me to say it because that's what you expected.......
 
???....lol.....considering the fact that is exactly what I'm arguing he is instead of a living creature you should be saying except yours, not except mine......YOU'RE the one claiming he has a living body......
This statement makes no sense, but I will try to answer.

Where did I say he had a living body? I don't make claims about God, I just repeat what others believe. I question there is a God, but I definitely do not believe there is a God like the Bible, Qu'ran and Torah claim.

You are all over the place about your beliefs and like Baxter says, when we think you have made one claim, we pose questions to that claim and you then turn around and state that is not what you believe. You are shifty and dishonest.
 
you mean he would have neglected them after going to all that trouble?.......sparrows, lilies, hairy heads, etc......

Indeed, it wouldn't have been an exercise that would end in failure. We can all agree on that. It's at least possible that a species could survive from a beginning of a male and female. However, science tells us that it would be far from an ideal situation. It would in all likelihood result in far different animals than the original parents.
 
wait.....the guy who said at least a half dozen times it didn't believe it had to be worldwide believes it was worldwide......how enlightening....

You are so full of shit. Again, if it was not worldwide, then all your bullshit about gene manipulation and cat kind is for nothing. You are just twisting and spinning to try to come up with something more plausible, but you are denying the Bible.

There was no flood big enough to wipe out all homo sapiens.

If the details about it being worldwide, taking members of all animals that moved upon the earth and flew on the ark and killing all the rest is not necessary then none of it is. We can write the whole story off as poetry, which is what has been suggested. But you and Ken Ham need it to attack science. So while you are in full retreat now you will come slither back to your old position eventually.
 
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I suggest you site your sources, not doing so is naughty!
 
Holy shit!.....have we achieved enlightenment?.....

Then that is your position? If it is then you are going to have to continue to debate on the basis of assumptions only. Which is perfectly fine as long as you don't reject assumptions being made by your opponents.

It tells me too that you have little faith in your bible. You seem to want to try to rewrite it or interpret in ways that suit your agenda. By all means do!
 
and what if the people who wrote the epic were talking about the same event?......did they borrow the event as well?......

It is possible they borrowed from some other myth. There is no event left. You have explained away the relevance of the entire story in a failing attempt to make it more reasonable.
 
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