Debunking Covid stupidity part one: Vaccines DO slow the spread

AProudLefty said:
I didn't "touch this post of yours" because I have already covered that multiple times. Also it isn't relevant to my point. Caring people want to see people be healthy.
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I dunno,...Seems weird to me....:rolleyes: Caring people want to see people be healthy,...by CHEERING them to DIE and celebrating, outright GLOATING if they do? Hmmm,...something just doesnt seem to compute with that. :laugh:
 
Stone said:
I dunno,...Seems weird to me....:rolleyes: Caring people want to see people be healthy,...by CHEERING them to DIE and celebrating, outright GLOATING if they do? Hmmm,...something just doesnt seem to compute with that. :laugh:
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Well why do we have Darwin award? :laugh:
 
AProudLefty said:
How do they end the retarded people? :thinking:
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There are tens of millions of retarded people more than you think there is. Including many who think they are the farthest thing from it. Its actually kinda funny to sit back and watch.
 
AProudLefty said:
Well why do we have Darwin award? :laugh:
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Sick people who are unhappy and get their jollies from the suffering of others. Woeful, lowly people like that demand it,...its all they have. In a way I have to pity them because they are in fact quite pitiful.
 
Concart said:
This is simple math. Let's take a look at an example using the Delta variant:

Vaccinated people are five times less likely to be infected with the Delta variant. This is a fact. If you don't accept it as fact, please skip posting here and pick up a book instead.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

The R0 of Delta with no mitigation factors is somewhere around 5-7, let's go with five for this exercise:

https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28/7/taab124/6346388

Okay, now lets start. 200 people are exposed to a person the Delta variant, 100 are vaccinated, 100 are unvaccinated. Given the delta and the efficacy of the vaccines:

7 unvaccinated people will get the variant
2 vaccinated people will get the variant (I'm erring on the side of caution, it's actually less than two)

If the group had been 100 percent vaccinated, 3 people would have gotten the virus, instead of nine. Each iteration increases the infection exponentially. This is simple math. Three is less than nine. Therefore vaccines slow the spread. If enough people are vaccinated, and additional mitigation is used, the R0 will quickly drop below 1.

Any questions? If you are having trouble understanding, see the teacher for assignment to the remedial window licker class.
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LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE VARIANTS.

DELTA IS OVER. OMICRON IS THE DOMINANT VARIANT...ADN IS BASICALLY HARMLESS.

THE VACCINATED CARRY THE SAME VIRAL LOAD AS THE UNVACCIANTED.

ASK A GROWNUP TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU.


YOUR ARTICLE IS PURELY SPECULATION, BASED ON A MINUTE NUMBER OF CASES ,WITH ZERO PROOF OF THE EFFECT OF THE VACCINES...ADN IS FROM LAST AUGUST.


NICE TRY, DIPSHIT..>WE KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT IT NOW.


FUCK YOU LYING IDIOTS AND YOUR MANDATES.


AND, AS FAR AS DELTA:






COVID vaccines cut the risk of transmitting Delta — but not for long

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y
 
Clownfart said:
This is simple math. Let's take a look at an example using the Delta variant:

Vaccinated people are five times less likely to be infected with the Delta variant. This is a fact. If you don't accept it as fact, please skip posting here and pick up a book instead.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm

The R0 of Delta with no mitigation factors is somewhere around 5-7, let's go with five for this exercise:

https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article/28/7/taab124/6346388

Okay, now lets start. 200 people are exposed to a person the Delta variant, 100 are vaccinated, 100 are unvaccinated. Given the delta and the efficacy of the vaccines:

7 unvaccinated people will get the variant
2 vaccinated people will get the variant (I'm erring on the side of caution, it's actually less than two)

If the group had been 100 percent vaccinated, 3 people would have gotten the virus, instead of nine. Each iteration increases the infection exponentially. This is simple math. Three is less than nine. Therefore vaccines slow the spread. If enough people are vaccinated, and additional mitigation is used, the R0 will quickly drop below 1.

Any questions? If you are having trouble understanding, see the teacher for assignment to the remedial window licker class.
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Do you have any data concerning omicron infections among the vaccinated? Your example using the delta variant was very nice, but 73% of new covid infections are the omicron variant. Delta will likely be totally outcompeted by omicron soon. There's a seat waiting for you in the remedial window licker class.
 
I did my road work in the Catskills.

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This pier is taller than that one.


But that pier is taller than all of them.

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anatta said:
your "math" implies 3 is somehow better then 9. like this is some kind of linear calculus -its not

It doesn't take into consideration vaxxing doesnt stop the spread -vaxxed spread as well
It doesn't mean a thing with this incredible contagion
It's evident it's endemic
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Yes, three people infected is better than nine. Are you really this fucking stupid? Three people spreading is better than nine. Three people spreading to a fully vaccinated population would infect fewer than nine people in a half vaxxed population. WTF you cannot be this abjectly fucking stupid.
 
Sirthinksalot said:
Do you have any data concerning omicron infections among the vaccinated? Your example using the delta variant was very nice, but 73% of new covid infections are the omicron variant. Delta will likely be totally outcompeted by omicron soon. There's a seat waiting for you in the remedial window licker class.
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Omicron appears to have an R0 of about ten, and the efficacy of the vaccine appears to be around 50% than 80%. But the principle is EXACTLY THE SAME. Fewer vaxxed will be infected. It will slow the spread. Period.
 
anatta said:
you do understand this virus doesnt stop with herd immunity?
it's a SARS type virus -same as the common cold. cant vaxx it away, cant mask it away, can't lockdown it away
Therapeutic are how we "learn to cope" along with vaxxing - but it's gonna spread thru populations no matter what we do. thats the history of COVID
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False. Completely and entirely false.

The original virus spread to people within six feet of an infected person. If it was possible to freeze everyone in place six feet from everyone else, the virus would have been wiped off the face of the earth in two weeks. It is harder to achieve herd immunity with this virus than with smallpox, but it is possible. You appear to know absolutely nothing. It's remarkable.
 
anatta said:
ROFL

then why the draconian measures? Nothing can stop it, nothing can "slow" it, it's freaking pandemic.

By now you should have learned this -instead you come up with a pathetic hypothesis that vaxxing/mitigation is going to now slow the spread AFTER IT"S IN THE POPULATION

That ship has sailed. We saw from the beginning that lockdowns dont work as we hit the first wave
Vaxxing doesn't work. at best it reduces the time of a higher viral load - but viral loads
are still shedding from vaxxed.
Learn to live with it and quit the fucking mandates which bring their own sets of problems
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If R0 is below one and stays there, the virus will disappear. You are one of the dumbest fucks I've ever encountered on the internet. You should thank God for people like Grok. You look almost normal compared to him.
 
Clownfart said:
Omicron appears to have an R0 of about ten, and the efficacy of the vaccine appears to be around 50% than 80%. But the principle is EXACTLY THE SAME. Fewer vaxxed will be infected. It will slow the spread. Period.
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Can't help but notice you didn't provide any links to back this up.
 
Concart said:
If R0 is below one and stays there, the virus will disappear. You are one of the dumbest fucks I've ever encountered on the internet. You should thank God for people like Grok. You look almost normal compared to him.
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fucking idiot. RO below 1 makes it endemic not "disappear"
and we are never going to get there, especially with omnicron/illegal pouring across the border/vaxxing still transmitting and the mobile society we have.
 
Concart said:
False. Completely and entirely false.

The original virus spread to people within six feet of an infected person. If it was possible to freeze everyone in place six feet from everyone else, the virus would have been wiped off the face of the earth in two weeks. It is harder to achieve herd immunity with this virus than with smallpox, but it is possible. You appear to know absolutely nothing. It's remarkable.
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social distancing is effective in stopping transmission. but we can't do it for all.
vaxxing and masking do not stop transmissions -quit feeding this impossible BS

we can quarantine (SD) those at risk like we always do for pandemics, instead we went to this insane model developed by a 12 year old
 
anatta said:
fucking idiot. RO below 1 makes it endemic not "disappear"
and we are never going to get there, especially with omnicron/illegal pouring across the border/vaxxing still transmitting and the mobile society we have.
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No, it will eventually disappear. You literally know nothing about what you're talking about.

R0 for seasonal flu is not below 1, nor is the R0 for the common cold. We have accepted that because the measures needed to lower it have been deemed not worth the effort. Your stupidity continues to amaze me.
 
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