nah, I was "channeling"....Ohh you mean Damo is promoting an out of contest soundbite ?
I should have added a j/k on the end for those who take it too seriously.
I am not, however, promoting myself as a news source.
Democrats Smoke and Mirrors – They wont stop the war
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I should have added a j/k on the end for those who take it too seriously.
I am not, however, promoting myself as a news source.
What are you talking about?
John Edwards says he can't promise to have all troops out of Iraq by 2013 because we may have humanitarian workers there that need protection and foresees the possibility for the need of a brigade of troops, about 3,500, and therefore cannot commit to having all troops out by 2013. Yet, here you are acting like a complete idiot playing "gotcha." I'm just calling it like I see it.
On Edwards, I think he's getting a bad deal on this, but he made the mistake of giving them the "I can't commit to that" line.
Bush voters are desperate to spread some equivalence around, and false equivalence is their favorite kind.
But I don't think Hillary is getting a bad deal, because she is full of shit, and her vote yesterday proved that.
If you all realized that if we walk away from iraq we loose out on tons of future oil contracts as well as a staging ground and strategic military outpost for the next 50years you would know that Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and any of the mainstream republicans have NO plans to leave for the foreseeable future. Sure you will get down to 30K troops in 7years but we are here to stay.
If they really wanted out... the dems... they can do it now and would if it was some rat country with nothing to offer.
If they really wanted out... the dems... they can do it now and would if it was some rat country with nothing to offer.
Yeah, the Dems would just sprinkle some fairy dust and all our troops would be back home. They have the fairy dust, they just don't want to use it.
You're an idiot.
I read the entire transcript. Not even one of them spoke to the fact that undeclared wars have invariably been debacles, each one worst than the last. Not one of them foreswore engaging in such activity, not one of them supports my view.
And how the heck does he think that only 3500 troops would be enough to protect the Embassy?
And how the heck does he think that only 3500 troops would be enough to protect the Embassy?
Who cares Damo, no one is going to talk about that, for Christ sakes, would you at least get real and stop acting so rarified? That's a biiiiggg topic at Republican debates too, give me a break! That genie is out of the bottle
He is probably not assuming that the situation in Iraq is always going to be the way it is today. But the real question is, why can't the idea of closing the embassy be broached? Well, I guess there is a reason it's the biggest, and most expensive, and I guess just all around bushiest, embassy in the whole wide world.
Did you really think there was going to be zero blowback from this adminstration?
Damo, you were defending the surge, and defending an escalation in Iraq from way back.
Chap: in spite of your spirited pleas to end the war, you can't run away from the fact that you were cheering for the defeat of two of the most eloquent critics of the war: Ned Lamont and Jim Webb - and you were cheerleading pro-war hawk Joe Lieberman on to victory.
Chap, just once I'd like to see a thread from you advocating that a dozen or so republican senators, and 40 or so GOP congress persons, join with Dems in passing withdrawl legislation.
The democrats have been lame, no doubt. Are they the problem? Nope. Your party has been the major roadblock to ending the war. Man up and let them know!
and your a douchbag but that is neither here nor there. I hold bush accountable and the republicans for being fuck ups. You choose to believe the dems can do no wrong. How about a little criticism of your party once in awhile so that you can gain some credibility.
I do criticize them when they're wrong. It just so happens that they aren't really wrong here. You're just playing dumbass "gotcha" games. And don't speak to me about credibility. You're the staunchest defender of Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani on this board, the two politicians with the least amount of integrity or credibility in the 2008 race. What's that make you?
I did say that if we were to pull this idiocy then we should have done it with far more troops and given them real security. That is a far cry from "supporting the surge". I also said that this "surge" was too small to be very effective and would likely just cause more problems. I did, often, state that the surge was actually one of the things in the Iraq Report that so many Ds wanted Bush to follow, yet they were trashing him for it.
But heck, we can forget what I said and pretend that I "supported" it because it's all good to make sure somebody is not taken out of context when they are a Democrat, but if they have an R next to their name, no matter what they say, they must be bashed mercilessly and if that takes out of context statements then so be it.
Although I do believe that since we allowed this to begin we have a responsibility toward those to end it better than 'just leave'.
Leaving is not my priority, it is the promise never to begin another undeclared debacle. I'm happy with their plans to get out... I am not happy that none of them speak towards the direction that I believe, that we must stop these idiotic War Powers Act debacles.
Really, because Rudy is your biggest non RR candidate right now, and he ain't talking about closing no embassy in case you haven't noticed?
LOL yah i defend them all the time. I give them credit where credit is due. Romney is probably the smartest business man in the race and there is no denying that. I give him credit for that. Guliani was a good leader when bush was nowhere to be herd during 911 i give him credit for that.
When did I say we should close the Embassy? I asked how he thought only 3500 troops would be needed to man it...
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Ok, I never once voted for Bush, not in 2000, not in 2004. I voted Gore in 2000, and Badnarik in 2004. I've been against Bush ever since he decided to ignore our responsibilities in Afghanistan so he could attack Iraq. We need to finish what we started, well, at least that was my idea up until Iraq. When the vote for authorization of force for Iraq happened, I criticized congress and protested. I knew what it meant, just like I knew what this vote meant for Iran. I've been pissed at the Dems for the last 5 years because they keep trying to play it off as if they didn't KNOW Bush was going to attack Iraq. Well, now the Dem's know, and what the hell do they do? More of the same....
At least with Republicans, they aren't hiding that they support it, they are just plain dumb and open about it. I'm thinking the Reps should change their animal to a dog, cause they shit right out in the open and don't care, and Dems to a Cat because they shit but try to bury it.