Despite bible thumpers whining we keep finding transitional fossils

Cypress said:
A truly transitional fossil representing an intermediate stage of evolution between modern aquatic whales and the land mammals they evolved from.
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they were looking into the cypress family tree again.

strange ways, here we come.
 
Mason 22 said:
The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible,man wrote it down.
If man wrote it,it would be a novel like
The Book of Mormon! I read both.
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I believe you are confused. The Quran says Allah wrote it. But if you have a passage that proves your claim, please post it.

I saw your web site. It appears you hope to become a cult leader like Jim Jones.
 
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Eagle_Eye said:
Who wrote the Bible? Man wrote it from experiences and lore passed down, which explains your argument.
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Right, this shouldn't be a mystery to anyone.

Genesis 1 and 2 is Hebrew poetry, which is supposed to be allegorical.

Who looks at poetry and decides it has to be treated as history and science?
 
Kafka said:
Oh great! A paleontology debate between IBDaMann, Internet Scientist and Cypress, Wikipedia Scholar.

This should be fun.
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You were never altogether quick on the uptake. This has nothing to do with paleontology. Cypress is making an erroneous religious argument.

Many Christians are like Cypress, i.e. they have questions that venture into areas of which they know little. Unfortunately, one common refuge is to fabricate fantasy concepts that sound "sciency" (e.g. "microevolution" vs "macroevolution", "transitional fossils", etc.) in order to prove a seemingly threatening theory "false." One of the more prominent examples is Darwin's theory of evolution. Many Christians are just not huge fans of the theory, mostly because they are taught to fear the theory and that it is somehow incompatible with their Christian beliefs. As such, many Christians feel a need to "falsify" Darwins theory, which they cannot do because Darwin's theory is not falsifiable and is not science.

In this case, however, Darwin's theory does not threaten any Christian beliefs except those of the young-earthers (Darwin's theory requires large time periods). There simply is no need for anyone to attempt to falsify Darwin's theory.

Enter Cypress, one of those who does, in fact, feel such a need. He is butchering/misrepresenting Darwin's theory in order to prove it false. It is the exact same thing as a politician assigning a bogus position to an opponent, and then attacking his opponent on the basis of the assigned bogus position. Darwin's theory holds that all populations are constantly in transition, very, very slowly, with each generation changing just a little bit, and over each population as a whole, those characteristics that provide a statistical advantage statistically increase in prominence. Since all populations are in transition, their fossils, if they form, will be transitional fossils of transitional forms.

Cypress' claim that "transitional fossils" are somehow formally defined by others who similarly share his bogus butchering of Darwin's theory is absurd. He never knows about what he is talking on any topic, but he pretends to be the commensurate expert on every topic.

Enjoy.
 
Cypress said:
Right, this shouldn't be a mystery to anyone.

Genesis 1 and 2 is Hebrew poetry, which is supposed to be allegorical.

Who looks at poetry and decides it has to be treated as history and science?
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Genesis isn't "allegorical"! What makes you think it's not exactly what it says !
 
IBDaMann said:
You were never altogether quick on the uptake. This has nothing to do with paleontology. Cypress is making an erroneous religious argument.

Many Christians are like Cypress, i.e. they have questions that venture into areas of which they know little. Unfortunately, one common refuge is to fabricate fantasy concepts that sound "sciency" (e.g. "microevolution" vs "macroevolution", "transitional fossils", etc.) in order to prove a seemingly threatening theory "false." One of the more prominent examples is Darwin's theory of evolution. Many Christians are just not huge fans of the theory, mostly because they are taught to fear the theory and that it is somehow incompatible with their Christian beliefs. As such, many Christians feel a need to "falsify" Darwins theory, which they cannot do because Darwin's theory is not falsifiable and is not science.

In this case, however, Darwin's theory does not threaten any Christian beliefs except those of the young-earthers (Darwin's theory requires large time periods). There simply is no need for anyone to attempt to falsify Darwin's theory.

Enter Cypress, one of those who does, in fact, feel such a need. He is butchering/misrepresenting Darwin's theory in order to prove it false. It is the exact same thing as a politician assigning a bogus position to an opponent, and then attacking his opponent on the basis of the assigned bogus position. Darwin's theory holds that all populations are constantly in transition, very, very slowly, with each generation changing just a little bit, and over each population as a whole, those characteristics that provide a statistical advantage statistically increase in prominence. Since all populations are in transition, their fossils, if they form, will be transitional fossils of transitional forms.

Cypress' claim that "transitional fossils" are somehow formally defined by others who similarly share his bogus butchering of Darwin's theory is absurd. He never knows about what he is talking on any topic, but he pretends to be the commensurate expert on every topic.

Enjoy.
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Cypress isn't Christian ! But I do agree with him on transitional fossils.
 
Cypress said:
Because bronze age people did not understand physics and chemistry, and they communicated in poetry and allegory.
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But! The Holy Spirit Does "understand physics and chemistry" ,that's always our hang up!
The Holy Spirit has you hamstrung! Christianity would have died out ages ago ,with Jesus just another victim of government and religious leaders.
 
Mason 22 said:
Cypress isn't Christian ! But I do agree with him on transitional fossils.
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... because you are a Christian who happens to feel somewhat threatened by Darwin's theory rather than notice that you don't disagree with any part of it. You are certainly welcome to incorporate your "transitional fossil" doctrine into your religion, but it doesn't refute Darwin's theory in any way; Darwin's theory doesn't work the way you are claiming it does, and Darwin's theory is unfalsifiable in the first place..
 
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