‘Dilbert’ dropped by The Post, other papers, after cartoonist’s racist rant

NiftyNiblick said:
At the end of the day, I make no claim of being sure.

What distinguishes me-- in a small way-- is that I accept nobody else's claim of being sure, either.

If I say that "I think" or "I believe," I'm not accepting anybody's claim, "I know." There is no science backing what they claim to "know."

That's really the gist of it.
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You were sure we have no Free Will. Why the backpedal, neef?

Good plan. Me neither. OTOH, I don't make claims I can't back up.

Words matter, neef. If you say you "think" or "believe" Jesus is divine, then that carries some consequences with it. Same thing for believing people are not responsible for their actions.

Understood about gist; you believe humans have no free will and, therefore, are not responsible for their actions since they have no choice. Most, in your opinion, who falter simply have inferior genes. Mostly the darkies, amirite? Southerners in general? Let's not forget those from Kentucky. LOL


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Doc Dutch said:
You were sure we have no Free Will. Why the backpedal, neef?
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Actually, I've acknowledged from the outset that my skepticism about free will was based on our inability to prove it scientifically.
Everything else in science is cause and effect, and free will would constitute a massive aberration from that paradigm.

There was no way that I could be SURE that free will doesn't exist.
I could only say that if it did, it would HAVE to be supernatural, and I've always been skeptical about the supernatural.
My atheism is based on the same thought process.

If my suspicions about free will are true, of course,
my disbelief in it and in all other things supernatural wouldn't have been a personal choice,
nor would your belief in it be a personal choice either.

Even if I don't believe in free will and then react to people as if they had it,
that wouldn't be a choice either.

The reality is that all of us on both sides of the argument act as if free will exists.
That includes me.
I just doubt that doing so is free will. Doubt, not flat out deny.
I don't know how to do the math to flat out deny, but I strongly suspect there's a way.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Actually, I've acknowledged from the outset that my skepticism about free will was based on our inability to prove it scientifically.
Everything else in science is cause and effect, and free will would constitute a massive aberration from that paradigm.

There was no way that I could be SURE that free will doesn't exist.
I could only say that if it did, it would HAVE to be supernatural, and I've always been skeptical about the supernatural.
My atheism is based on the same thought process.

If my suspicions about free will are true, of course,
my disbelief in it and in all other things supernatural wouldn't have been a personal choice,
nor would your belief in it be a personal choice either.

Even if I don't believe in free will and then react to people as if they had it,
that wouldn't be a choice either.

The reality is that all of us on both sides of the argument act as if free will exists.
That includes me.
I just doubt that doing so is free will. Doubt, not flat out deny.
I don't know how to do the math to flat out deny, but I strongly suspect there's a way.
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Easy answer. Did someone force you to write that post? If not, then you have free will.
 
BidenPresident said:
Easy answer. Did someone force you to write that post? If not, then you have free will.
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Someone didn't force me to write that post.

The post, however, could easily just have been the random confluence of sub-atomic particles.
Everything, in fact, could very well be that.
 
BidenPresident said:
Why speculate on something with no consequences?
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I forget how the discussion came up, frankly.
I don't obsess over this stuff at all.
I merely engage in interesting [to me] discourse.

I'm killing time on the internet because
with a few hundred channels on cable,
many of which I pay extra for,
I can't find anything to watch.

It's the way of this modern world, I'm afraid.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I forget how the discussion came up, frankly.
I don't obsess over this stuff at all.
I merely engage in interesting [to me] discourse.

I'm killing time on the internet because
with a few hundred channels on cable,
many of which I pay extra for,
I can't find anything to watch.

It's the way of this modern world, I'm afraid.
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putting you on ignore
 
Damocles said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Well pardon me, toodles. I didn't have the listing as to what gay themed insults were acceptable and what was not. Unlike you, I don't give these things much thought...as I don't indulge childish flame wars as much as you.

Oh well, whatever helps you sleep at night. Now, spew the final word nonsense and I'll see ya on the next discussion.
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Dude. You don't "indulge" in childish flame wars yet still make jokes that violate 12b? You are not making your case here, you just proved that you are incapable of introspection and reason, not that you are so "mature" that you never do this.

12b is about pedophilia. Don't suggest another poster is a molester or was molested. It really is very simple. Stop pretending you can't understand that rule and mix it up with gay "jokes". Just stop doing it.
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My man, check yourself and your records. I get called out for ONE insult exchange because your boy can dish it out but can't take it. Then some buffoon sends me a note saying that I shouldn't be "obsessed" with Tommy?

As I always say, the chronology of the posts tells the tale. All one has to do is check that to see that I DO NOT consistently or frequently engage in 'flame wars" to the degree Dutch and a whole lot of rabid right wing posters do. Hell, comparatively I don't even spend half the time here like they do...let alone the level of vitriol. And you'll note the consistent posting to me by various folks like Dippy DESPITE being put on ignore. I don't do that....so much for being "obsessed" ... especially when this site is loaded with some of the most disgusting racists going.

Here's the thing: the aforementioned folk exchange seriously vile insults....sometimes I read them and go "whoa!", as they imply or insinuate or flat out accuse all types of things that go way beyond being a kid toucher. I consider that just as bad if not worse than the 12b target. But as they say, there's no accounting for taste.

But, since that is the rule, I'll abide as best I can as I have been for years. It's your world, your interpretation of and decided enforcement rules. But as the old saying goes....don't piss on my shoes and then tell me it's raining. Carry on.

Carry on.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Agreed. His comments surprised me too since they were irrational. Did he not really understand the difference between calling someone a fellatist and calling them a child molester? Or was he deliberately playing with the same fire that got him reprimanded before?

IMO, he's really that irrational. I've noticed his eccentricities before but wrote it off as, while extreme, within the parameters of normal human behavior. This time, I think he's serious and really believes calling someone a gay epithet is a 12B violation. That fellatists and child molesters are the same. Pretty weird for someone who claims to be a liberal. LOL
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Blow it out your ass, Dutch. My response to Damo today explains my stance. Given how you would periodically live up to your former icon description and your readiness to indulge in moronic banter and the occasional vehemence when challenged on a position (i.e., gun laws), you're hardly in a position to deem someone as "irrational".

If you STILL don't get it, I'll spell it out for you: I consider some of the personalized insults and attacks done by some of the regulars here to be just as bad if not worse than 12b violations. But as the saying goes, there's no accounting for taste.

Carry on.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Actually, I've acknowledged from the outset that my skepticism about free will was based on our inability to prove it scientifically.
Everything else in science is cause and effect, and free will would constitute a massive aberration from that paradigm.

There was no way that I could be SURE that free will doesn't exist.
I could only say that if it did, it would HAVE to be supernatural, and I've always been skeptical about the supernatural.
My atheism is based on the same thought process.

If my suspicions about free will are true, of course,
my disbelief in it and in all other things supernatural wouldn't have been a personal choice,
nor would your belief in it be a personal choice either.

Even if I don't believe in free will and then react to people as if they had it,
that wouldn't be a choice either.

The reality is that all of us on both sides of the argument act as if free will exists.
That includes me.
I just doubt that doing so is free will. Doubt, not flat out deny.
I don't know how to do the math to flat out deny, but I strongly suspect there's a way.
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Being unsure isn't the same as believing it doesn't exist.
NiftyNiblick said:
This is true. I've acknowledged this in my posts.
It's not a matter of what people can and can't do.
It's just a matter of how we each view it.
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If people can't choose their own views, then whose fault is it?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Blow it out your ass, Dutch. My response to Damo today explains my stance. Given how you would periodically live up to your former icon description and your readiness to indulge in moronic banter and the occasional vehemence when challenged on a position (i.e., gun laws), you're hardly in a position to deem someone as "irrational".

If you STILL don't get it, I'll spell it out for you: I consider some of the personalized insults and attacks done by some of the regulars here to be just as bad if not worse than 12b violations. But as the saying goes, there's no accounting for taste.

Carry on.
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You're free to talk yourself into a 12B, Tai Chi. I'm just curious why you are doing it.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Blow it out your ass, Dutch. My response to Damo today explains my stance. Given how you would periodically live up to your former icon description and your readiness to indulge in moronic banter and the occasional vehemence when challenged on a position (i.e., gun laws), you're hardly in a position to deem someone as "irrational".

If you STILL don't get it, I'll spell it out for you: I consider some of the personalized insults and attacks done by some of the regulars here to be just as bad if not worse than 12b violations. But as the saying goes, there's no accounting for taste.

Carry on.
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You're free to talk yourself into a 12B, Tai Chi. I'm just curious why you are doing it.
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Now that was a stupid response by you. Since were talking about about the recent PAST, where am I alluding to, insinuating, implying or just flat out stating that I'm going to do it again?

Like I said, read my response to Damo today. Hopefully, you'll get what I'm saying. If not, then get someone you trust to explain it to you.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Now that was a stupid response by you. Since were talking about about the recent PAST, where am I alluding to, insinuating, implying or just flat out stating that I'm going to do it again?

Like I said, read my response to Damo today. Hopefully, you'll get what I'm saying. If not, then get someone you trust to explain it to you.
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Why? Go ahead and keep violating 12B, TL. I'm curious to see how long it takes to ban you and how long you get for dying on that mound. :thup:
 
Taichiliberal said:
Blow it out your ass, Dutch. My response to Damo today explains my stance. Given how you would periodically live up to your former icon description and your readiness to indulge in moronic banter and the occasional vehemence when challenged on a position (i.e., gun laws), you're hardly in a position to deem someone as "irrational".

If you STILL don't get it, I'll spell it out for you: I consider some of the personalized insults and attacks done by some of the regulars here to be just as bad if not worse than 12b violations. But as the saying goes, there's no accounting for taste.

Carry on.
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You're a fucking moron, pure and simple.
 
Taichiliberal said:
My man, check yourself and your records. I get called out for ONE insult exchange because your boy can dish it out but can't take it. Then some buffoon sends me a note saying that I shouldn't be "obsessed" with Tommy?

As I always say, the chronology of the posts tells the tale. All one has to do is check that to see that I DO NOT consistently or frequently engage in 'flame wars" to the degree Dutch and a whole lot of rabid right wing posters do. Hell, comparatively I don't even spend half the time here like they do...let alone the level of vitriol. And you'll note the consistent posting to me by various folks like Dippy DESPITE being put on ignore. I don't do that....so much for being "obsessed" ... especially when this site is loaded with some of the most disgusting racists going.

Here's the thing: the aforementioned folk exchange seriously vile insults....sometimes I read them and go "whoa!", as they imply or insinuate or flat out accuse all types of things that go way beyond being a kid toucher. I consider that just as bad if not worse than the 12b target. But as they say, there's no accounting for taste.

But, since that is the rule, I'll abide as best I can as I have been for years. It's your world, your interpretation of and decided enforcement rules. But as the old saying goes....don't piss on my shoes and then tell me it's raining. Carry on.

Carry on.
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Fuck off if you don't like it, actually just fuck off anyway.
 
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