Do I Have The Right To Leave This Country For Good?

philly rabbit said:
You keep making the argument that the government owns all the land and I keep countering your argument with it doesn't own my private property.

And within my state it is protected from federal seizure and within my state it is United States territory only because the states are voluntary members of the union with the agreement with the fed that the citizens property within the state is private property.
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where have I EVER said that the government owns the land? You just flat make shit up. You are the one who said that the democratic process needed to be in play. Quit babbling about it on an obscure internet message board and go do something about it. Start petitions... right letters to the editor... stand on a soapbox on the street corner... organize like minded people to meet and share ideas... get involved. See if you can create the public support in the democratic process to achieve your goals. Quit whining and start doing.
 
maineman said:
where have I EVER said that the government owns the land? You just flat make shit up. You are the one who said that the democratic process needed to be in play. Quit babbling about it on an obscure internet message board and go do something about it. Start petitions... right letters to the editor... stand on a soapbox on the street corner... organize like minded people to meet and share ideas... get involved. See if you can create the public support in the democratic process to achieve your goals. Quit whining and start doing.
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Exactly, nothing personal PR but if I were a part of this movement I would not want you anywhere near the front of the organization as a leader trying to sell the public on this idea. Attacking and insulting others as you have, instead of attempting to educate, isn't really an optimal way to convert people over to your side on an issue like this.
 
iolo said:
You sound like me talking about the acceptance of capitalism! Everyone has 'the right' to break free of someone else's control - if he can convince enough others to join him and they are strong enough to do it. Ancient texts have little to do with the matter, let's face it!
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You two WERE seperated at birth ! Amazing...
 
cawacko said:
Exactly, nothing personal PR but if I were a part of this movement I would not want you anywhere near the front of the organization as a leader trying to sell the public on this idea. Attacking and insulting others as you have, instead of attempting to educate, isn't really an optimal way to convert people over to your side on an issue like this.
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If he refuses to give thought to the the real and practical particulars its impossible to take seriously. Piss and vinegar are all well and good but if you have not a plan for your action and only relying on some court to see things your way..... yikes....
 
Celticguy said:
If he refuses to give thought to the the real and practical particulars its impossible to take seriously. Piss and vinegar are all well and good but if you have not a plan for your action and only relying on some court to see things your way..... yikes....
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Exactly. I look around the globe and there is no other place I would rather live than the United States and I feel very lucky to be an American. I'm going to assume I'm not the only one that feels that way. So I don't think it's Americans natural inclination to think we need to secede from the U.S. and start our own country. If that's the movement he wants to start he needs to tell and show people why it is in their interest to do so not just sit here and calling everyone idiot's and say you suck because you like football or looking at nude women.
 
Anyone know if our wascally wabbit friend is a lefty sock puppet having a bit of fun ? Kinda. Seems like that might be possible.
 
Celticguy said:
Anyone know if our wascally wabbit friend is a lefty sock puppet having a bit of fun ? Kinda. Seems like that might be possible.
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Haha. Nothing would surprise me. He started this thread on another board and is having basically the same conversation as here.
 
cawacko said:
PR, what would be used as currency in the newly formed nation? Would it still be the dollar?
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Which would be worth a lot more than your fiat currency is because it will be backed by savings in the form of the gold and silver standard.

And there will be no national bank and the government will not circulate the currency within the republic.
 
Celticguy said:
He needs a hobby.
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Tomorrow at the tailgate party, take a break from your fun and huddle with your liberal dudes and try to find workable solutions to your crap hole socialist country's problems.

It should take you about 30 seconds in between another beer can pop.
 
cawacko said:
Exactly, nothing personal PR but if I were a part of this movement I would not want you anywhere near the front of the organization as a leader trying to sell the public on this idea. Attacking and insulting others as you have, instead of attempting to educate, isn't really an optimal way to convert people over to your side on an issue like this.
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And no offense to you personally but you're the kind of republican that the GOP needs to reduce to insignificance because you can do nothing but see the country through moderate, liberal eyes.

You constantly buddy up with liberals ever seeking solutions to problems they have all created. Liberals don't think there's anything wrong with the country. To them, everything's going according to plan.
 
Celticguy said:
Anyone know if our wascally wabbit friend is a lefty sock puppet having a bit of fun ? Kinda. Seems like that might be possible.
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No.
Unfortunately, I have have encountered his type before, when I was attending counsel meeting with Bill Walker. I don't think this is an act, I think he is serious. They are usually white, over 60 and terrified of the social changes in the USA. Their very way of life is being threatened. They want white rule, God in politics, women, gays and those black people, plus the messicans, to know their place and that place is being subserviant to the great white male! They don't want to pay taxes, but they want the services that those taxes supply
 
maineman said:
where have I EVER said that the government owns the land? You just flat make shit up. You are the one who said that the democratic process needed to be in play. Quit babbling about it on an obscure internet message board and go do something about it. Start petitions... right letters to the editor... stand on a soapbox on the street corner... organize like minded people to meet and share ideas... get involved. See if you can create the public support in the democratic process to achieve your goals. Quit whining and start doing.
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What makes you think I'm not?
 
Sardonic said:
No.
Unfortunately, I have have encountered his type before, when I was attending counsel meeting with Bill Walker. I don't think this is an act, I think he is serious. They are usually white, over 60 and terrified of the social changes in the USA. Their very way of life is being threatened. They want white rule, God in politics, women, gays and those black people, plus the messicans, to know their place and that place is being subserviant to the great white male! They don't want to pay taxes, but they want the services that those taxes supply
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That is correct.

And you and your fellow shores gave America government families and destroyed marriage.
 
cawacko said:
Exactly. I look around the globe and there is no other place I would rather live than the United States and I feel very lucky to be an American. I'm going to assume I'm not the only one that feels that way. So I don't think it's Americans natural inclination to think we need to secede from the U.S. and start our own country. If that's the movement he wants to start he needs to tell and show people why it is in their interest to do so not just sit here and calling everyone idiot's and say you suck because you like football or looking at nude women.
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The people who start the next party before the last one ends don't care what happens to America because they feel they have no future in America and most of all they don't even bother to vote.
 
philly rabbit said:
Tomorrow at the tailgate party, take a break from your fun and huddle with your liberal dudes and try to find workable solutions to your crap hole socialist country's problems.

It should take you about 30 seconds in between another beer can pop.
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You really do hate the USA, maybe it is better that you leave! Try Somalia, it's government is a perfect fit for you!

Where are you getting the gold and silver from to back your new currency?
 
Celticguy said:
Anyone know if our wascally wabbit friend is a lefty sock puppet having a bit of fun ? Kinda. Seems like that might be possible.
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You need to stop kissing liberal dude ass paly.

If all you want to do is be popular and fit in with the dudes, then you don't offer any real solutions to the country's problems either. And I went over this earlier with an address to you bootlickers on the right.
 
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