christiefan915
Catalyst
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Do you want to know what Small hands spiritual adviser wants from you good Christians
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The reality of what the Scriptures say about supporting Government and being a Christian? It has nothing to do with money....but the responsibility of all those professing to be Christians.
1st... The Apostle Paul (a hand picked Apostle, appointed by the Christ) made it known that ALL GOVERNMENTS, pagan or not...exist by the authority of God.....and all Christians are commanded to be subject to those common laws of the land,
"Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities (so much for those fake Christians that claim Trump is not their president). For there is no authority except from God, and THE AUTHORITIES THAT EXIST ARE APPOINTED BY GOD. Therefore WHOEVER resists (breaks the law of the land...etc.,) the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment upon themselves." -- Romans 13:1-2
In fact during the time of Christ upon earth and shortly after there were several examples of Christians actually working in government positions of authority. Example "Zacchaeus" was a tax collector (Luke: 19-2), even when he repented of his sinful life there is no evidence that he quit his job after he became a Christian (Luke 19:8-10). There are other examples of individual Christians serving in Caesar's government, "All saints greet you, especially those of Caesar's household." -- Phil. 4:22
Not to mention the very first gentile covert to become a Christian was a Roman Commander, a soldier in Caesar's Army....Cornelius (Acts 10). Another example of a so called Pagan being called to serve the Lord ....the Ethiopian eunuch who severed the queen of Ethiopia directly as a tax collector...and came to Jerusalem to worship the Lord (Acts 8:27).
But...back to content of the Word of God and how a Christian is to obey the government appointed over him/her. Its clear that Christians are not forbidden to serve in a government position. Then the Apostle has a warning against anyone that does not obey that government, "For he (government authority as per the context) is GOD'S MINISTER UNTO YOU FOR GOOD. But if you do evil, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain (a reference to having God's authority to administer the DEATH PENALTY when required).....FOR HE IS GOD'S MINISTER, AND AVENGER TO EXECUTE WRATH ON HIM WHO PRACTICES EVIL." -- Romans 13:4
Why does God allow the government to seek revenge in order to defend even Christians against evil? Because the Christian is indeed forbidden to seek revenge and take the law into his own hands (there is a difference between revenge and self defense)....Vengeance belongs to God...not the Christian (Romans 12:19)
This revelation proves that God allows the death penalty...for God is the one that instigated the penalty of death for those who engaged in acts of evil against his fellow man....in particularly the spilling of innocent blood (Genesis 9:5-6)
The direct words of Christ as revealed in the scripture proves that ALL GOVERNMENTS exist by the authority of God. "Then Pilate said to Him (Jesus)....Are you speaking to me? Do you know that I have power to crucify You, and power to release You? Jesus answered, You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given to you from above. Therefore the one that delivered Me has the greater sin. (referring to His innocence)" -- John 19: 10-11.
The question then is the fact of those attempting to accuse the President of something that has not happened. Just when did Mr. Trump demand of those who supported him to Send Money to this woman? Document it. If not.....this thread contains nothing but ignorance to the truth found in the actual text of the Word of God...and Gossip instigated by those attempting to reject the authority of the duly elected and appointed Government authority known as President Donald J. Trump.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Thanks.
Personally, I think it's better to live your life so that you like the person you see in the mirror when you brush your teeth in the morning. It's nice to hope for an eternal life and all, but it doesn't do you much good if you spend your current life being a dick.
It's been many, many moons since Sunday School. Do Christians still teach their adherents that they are to act in such a way as to be shining examples to attract more souls to the Lord? If so I don't see much of that in the on-line world anymore, from those who self-identify as Christians.... especially on the right where Jesus is needed now more than ever.
Here is another Bible passage that doesn't seem to be in much use any more by the Right:
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.
32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,
36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” (Matthew 25: 31 - 46)
When Obama was president of the Untied States....how many violent riots and acts of wanton destruction of private property did those who disagreed with his politics engage? Document them....how many fake severed heads were held up as a joke that resembled Barry Soetoro? How many republicans beat down folks for voting for Obama? How many Electoral College voters were threatened with violence against them or their families? And who was the first that refused to accept the results of the election?
The cry baby left has no shame.
The cry baby left has no shame.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Who the fuck is "Barry Soetoro", you fake Xtian?
Talk about no shame. Isn't lying forbidden by your god?
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
Oops!
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Personally what YOU THINK means nothing.....for one must worship in spirit and truth. In relation to Truth...there is only one truth when it comes to Christian Doctrine...the WORD OF GOD. You are supposed to be "sanctified in the word of Truth...God's word." -- John 17:17
Its not WHAT YOU THINK that makes you free...its TRUTH John 8:31-32
No one can know the truth without studying the ENTIRE WORD OF GOD.....you can't "cherry pick" from scripture and be made free...one must consider ALL THE WORD OF GOD (Ps. 119:160). A half truth can be twisted into a whole lie.
I have thatowlwoman beast lover on ignore but I have 2cent to "share' about the post you respond to: 1. that ain't the KJV and it seems foreign to me, 2. leftist/ liberals always seem to fail to consider the context of scripture, especially the contexts of Christ's testimonies. this is great error which leads to self reformer, antichrist, moralizer, and in this forum; socialistic heresy. as it was, so it is with us all. I do entreat for the understanding to be opened for every soul which earnestly seeks Christ and does not dishonestly apply the word of truth for carnal , political and self serving advancement. Lord have mercy.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I agree. I've read the entire Bible several times. My parents were heavily invested in the church; Mom was a Sunday school teacher for many years, as well as one of the most devout people I've ever known. Our home was filled with religious texts and Christian novels.... all of which I read. She wouldn't understand today's RW Xtians, but she would surely pray for you. I don't need to look up Bible passages except when copy/pasting is needed; they were ingrained in our education and memory every bit as much as the Preamble to the Constitution and the Gettysburg Address.
You all continue to hate on the poor, the imprisoned, the disenfranchised, the strangers in a strange land. If there is any truth at all in the Christian mythos about Heaven, Hell, judgment, etc..... you'll be surprised at the end.... based on the words of your own Saviour.
I have lately considered earnestly how I may serve those less fortunate than myself. I pray that I may be of service to the brethren of Christ. it cannot be through the beast gov.. it cannot be through the fornicating whore and her whorish daughters. it will have to be done in secret; that is the prescribed method of working good for fellow human beings.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
LOL
You know I could show you mansions of preachers all day that would shock you, don't you. Saying your preacher is different, proves nothing. First, justy you saying so. But if true, that does not mean there are not lots and lots of preachers who don't get rich. Religions blow the money of the brethren by the ton. http://ldschurchtemples.org/saltlake/ and http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2013/01/17/12-most-beautiful-churches-in-america.html They build temples to themselves.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
actually I think you would run out of mansions in a week or two......but go for it, if you want......
Want bigotry and greed, go to a southern church. Show me a preacher with 2 suits and I will show you a hypocrite. If they presume to teach about god, they should live what they preach. They do not. They call the church members a flock, because they fleece them.