Doge Clock...

Jarod said:
Do you believe the numbers from the tracking site?
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lol. In a way.... I think contracts have been cancelled, and that some of it had savings. What I wonder is what they are going to do when they supposedly reach the 1.5 Trillion in "savings".

Anyway, having a special government employee in charge of government efficiency is a "Grand Plan", can it improve? Will it?

If even a portion of what they report is actual savings it is better than what we had before, and if there becomes a drive towards efficiency and savings, a "movement" to actually get it done something can happen that could be incredible. In order to begin such a thing you actually have to start on the path. I'd like to see where it goes.
 
Damocles said:
lol. In a way.... I think contracts have been cancelled, and that some of it had savings. What I wonder is what they are going to do when they supposedly reach the 1.5 Trillion in "savings".

Anyway, having a special government employee in charge of government efficiency is a "Grand Plan", can it improve? Will it?

If even a portion of what they report is actual savings it is better than what we had before, and if there becomes a drive towards efficiency and savings, a "movement" to actually get it done something can happen that could be incredible. In order to begin such a thing you actually have to start on the path. I'd like to see where it goes.
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I know, but I just laugh when this administration makes claims such as are on this budget savings clock.
 
Damocles said:
lol. In a way.... I think contracts have been cancelled, and that some of it had savings. What I wonder is what they are going to do when they supposedly reach the 1.5 Trillion in "savings".

Anyway, having a special government employee in charge of government efficiency is a "Grand Plan", can it improve? Will it?

If even a portion of what they report is actual savings it is better than what we had before, and if there becomes a drive towards efficiency and savings, a "movement" to actually get it done something can happen that could be incredible. In order to begin such a thing you actually have to start on the path. I'd like to see where it goes.
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Damocles one of your many problems is you do not understand what the word 'savings' mean.

if you have a contract with someone to build this web site for you and i come in and cancel it, that is not 'savings' simply because i prevented you spending in that moment with that vendor.

You show, time and again you are fully wiling to accept the number and definitions given by MAGA despite them being BS.

We have yet to see a single a single contract 'canceled' my Doge that was fraud despite the claims. Instead they are cancelled simply because any contract with a cancellation provision, and some without were ALL cancelled by Doge with no regard to ...if the service is needed (would it cut cost if implemented) or ...if they will get sued and have to pay out later, or ...if the next government will have to redo and reinstate it, as it was needed.

So while you will clap like a seal at 'any savings being worth it' that is because you are dumb and do not think beyond the announcement and i can prove it.

Damocles test:

Question 1 - when all the people were fired or laid off and Doge claimed 'savings' ... does Damocles even factor that those people are now being rehired by court order, being paid for time missed and some suing for damages all of which could cost more...

Question 2 - When Doge announces savings cutting the IRS to the bone... does Damocles even factor or recognize that government inbound revenue loss will far exceed any employee savings or does he just clap like a seal seeing only the cost side...

Question 3 - as all these departments rehire in the next administration (NOAA, NIOSH, IRS, Veterans Affiars, etc) does Damo recognize that the 'savings' claimed were fake and just a slight of hand to TEMPORARILY show a ledger with reduced cost despite them knowing that would be fixed at even great cost later...

I guarantee you Damo would not get one of these questions correct and he will continue this line that as long as at the end Doge claims even $1 of savings it will all be worth it and what you WON'T see Damo do is speak to the liability side of Doge actions even if those cost 10 times as much.
 
It will be the same for claimed Medicaid savings. It will force more families into medical bankruptcy and to leave care only to end of life care which is far more expensive, over time than managing medical issues as they arise and not allowing them to progress as quickly to the worst case.

Magat seals will clap about savings (front end only) while never looking at the back end costs of that decision which are multiples higher.
 
Jarod said:
I know, but I just laugh when this administration makes claims such as are on this budget savings clock.
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This clock isn't an official government website, but it does take information from the official site. I haven't posted their numbers, which are actually 5 Billion more than my last image from the clock I've been using in this thread.
 
And @Damocles idiocy continues even as the gov't is now being forced to rehire many of those cut.

Does a single person here thing the Doge cuts tracker will track and report on those hired back or just continue to report AS IF savings what is done on Day 1, even if reversed with penalty payments (cost more) on Day10?

Does any one think Damocles is smart enough to connect those dots? To report ANY of these reversals.

I could 'save' Amazon money tomorrow by cutting 100% of their staff. It would be a true savings. But also a bs illusion as they would have to hire them back often at greater cost but people like Damocles clap like seals at the illusion thinking it a win.

Stay tuned to see if he EVER calls out any Doge bullshit. BUt don't hold your breath.




Surprise: The Government Is “Scrambling” to Rehire Workers Fired by DOGE​

“Notice of Reduction in Force (RIF) issued to you…is officially RESCINDED [and] you will not be separated from employment,” read one absurdly euphemistic email.

...“across the government, the Trump administration is scrambling to rehire many federal employees dismissed under DOGE’s staff-slashing initiatives after wiping out entire offices, in some cases imperiling key services such as weather forecasting and the drug approval process.” For example, in May, the Food and Drug Administration started sending ridiculously euphemistic emails to fired staff that read, “Notice of Reduction in Force (RIF) issued to you…is officially RESCINDED [and] you will not be separated from employment,” according to the Post, which reviewed the message. “You are expected to return to duty the next business day following your receipt of this notice.”...

...Other agencies, like the USDA, have similarly attempted to reverse their firings;..
 

Trump administration scrambles to rehire key federal workers after DOGE firings​



Federal agencies are rehiring and ordering back from leave some of the employees who were laid off in the weeks after President Donald Trump took office as they scramble to fill critical gaps in services left by the Department of Government Efficiency-led effort to shrink the federal workforce.

The Trump administration’s quiet backtracking from the firings and voluntary retirements — which are also paired with new hires to fill vacancies those departures created ...

...Some government employees’ firings were halted by courts. But other moves to reinstate federal workers come as the Trump administration faces pressure from lawmakers, industries and groups they serve....

...With hurricane season looming, the National Weather Service — ... received permission to hire about 125 new meteorologists and specialists for its forecast offices around the country, ...

...The Department of Health and Human Services reinstated 450 employees at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who were fired as part of a massive reorganization in April,...

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said in May that the department had also reinstated 328 workers at the CDC’s National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health focused on mine safety....

...More than 200 employees had their firings rescinded at the CDC’s National Center for HIV, V... along with 158 at the National Center for Environmental Health, .... Another 71 were brought back in the Office of the Director and two dozen more at the Global Health Center...

...In February, the Trump administration fired — and then the next day rehired — more than 300 probationary employees at the National Nuclear Security Administration,...
 
Of course the Doge Tracker @Damocles reports on is updating to reduce the amounts they report as "savings" when hirings like the above and all the lawsuits providing back pay and other are factored in.

Of course @Damocles is smart enough to know that reporting this as a one way street would be as stupid as someone firing one person but then hiring two only reporting on the firing and saying the company is now saving on salaries.

I mean, Damo know that right? He is not so stupid that he thinks you can add this up like a straight line and not consider the costs?? Is he??
 
QP! said:
Of course the Doge Tracker @Damocles reports on is updating to reduce the amounts they report as "savings" when hirings like the above and all the lawsuits providing back pay and other are factored in.

Of course @Damocles is smart enough to know that reporting this as a one way street would be as stupid as someone firing one person but then hiring two only reporting on the firing and saying the company is now saving on salaries.

I mean, Damo know that right? He is not so stupid that he thinks you can add this up like a straight line and not consider the costs?? Is he??
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Damocles is simply posting changes to the DOGE clock site whenever they post one and having fun poking at idiots who think I am somehow responsible for DOGE.
 
Damocles said:
Damocles is simply posting changes to the DOGE clock site whenever they post one and having fun poking at idiots who think I am somehow responsible for DOGE.
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Except that is a proven lie.

You fell for it hook, line and sinker and were actually counting the check you thought you would deserve from the "savings", while saying you would prefer they pay it to the debt.

You are now trying to run away from that position as you simply are incapable of owning your mistakes like any magat.
 
Damocles said:
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That'll change once Pedo Don's BBB is passed. LOL

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Damocles said:
I guess I'll have to pin this up. DOGE has 2.5 years to come up with 2 Trillion in savings (I think that was their goal). This clock tracks their progress.

dogegov.com

DOGE Clock | DogeGov Memecoin

DogeGov is a community-run memecoin based on the DOGE. We use the power and virality of memes to help spread the good word about DOGE's latest work.
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Maybe I can figure out a way to embed the thing...

doge.gov

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency
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That one is the official government one, it isn't real time yet... I look forward to it though. I hope that they'll make it embed capable...
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Crazy Trump and Elon Musk are at war. :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
 
Damocles said:
Not by much. They can still lose one and pass the bill. I'm always stunned by how many supposedly "balanced budget republicans" will pass this kind of thing.
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The GOP was killed by Trump in the 2018 elections. Ever since, it's been the Party of Trump. I'm surprised so many are now standing up against him. Even if the bill is passed, the damage to both the Republican Party and the American economy will already be done.
 
Trumpet said:
Crazy Trump and Elon Musk are at war. :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
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not really.

Trump never shares power well and shares credit even worse, and almost always falls out with anyone seen to also be powerful or getting credit for anything done within his administration.

The list of those he lauded first and then fell out with after is multiples longer than the list of those who have remained.
 
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