DOGE discovers $4.7 trillion

J Craft said:
I’m pretty confident people know how to grow other things besides cocaine in South America. I am also confident that with a $2 trillion deficit would be better off spending that money paying down our debt.
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Simpleton MAGATs always seem to concoct simple solutions to complex problems. This post is an excellent example. Coca grows in poor soil that isn't suitable for other cash crops. It's native and easy to grow and yields a good return for the grower. Let's see you provide some info on what other crops those farmers could substitute. We'll wait. And wait. And wait...
 
J Craft said:
Yes, we have other means to fight drugs. We should give the money to our farmers.-to our citizens in need.
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Why should we give money to our farmers? Shouldn't they be earning it like everyone else, esp. those "welfare queens" you all cry about? Or are you saying that they're going to need lots of taxpayer money due to the #FascistFelon's tariffs?
 
Tbird19482 said:
NOBODY is saying it isn't in his power to do it.
NOBODY
IMO he is doing it all ass backwards , You don't go in with a bulldozer and take down a third of the forest when all you were suppose to do is trim a couple of trees.
And that is what it looks like he is doing.
You don't go in and cut every program across the board first, you go in and find the fraud and waste FIRST THEN you cut.
Cutting programs first could hurt a lot of people that depend on these programs to survive.
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He has not “taken down a third of the forest” He has suspended spending, moved certain programs to be managed under other agencies, and cancelled programs that don’t align with his agenda for an America First agenda.
 
J Craft said:
He has not “taken down a third of the forest” He has suspended spending, moved certain programs to be managed under other agencies, and cancelled programs that don’t align with his agenda for an America First agenda.
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What do you call " suspending " funds that are already appropriated to help people in NEED, people that can NOT get by on what they are making and some working two or three jobs to get by ?
and the forest thing was a fucking metaphor,
Again you DON'T cut everything first then go in and look at a program to find it's waste and fraud you FIND the waste and fraud FIRST then you cut it, you don't hurt the people that NEED those programs that way.
 
Tbird19482 said:
What do you call " suspending " funds that are already appropriated?
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"Suspending" funds that are already appropriated is typically referred to as impoundment in the context of U.S. governmental budgeting and fiscal policy.

Impoundment occurs when the executive branch delays or withholds the expenditure of funds that Congress has already authorized and appropriated.

This can happen through two main forms:
  1. Deferral: A temporary suspension or delay in spending appropriated funds, often justified by the executive branch as a means to manage cash flow, achieve efficiency, or address changing priorities.
  2. Rescission: A more permanent withholding of funds, where the executive seeks to cancel the appropriation entirely, usually requiring congressional approval to take effect.
The term comes from the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, enacted after President Richard Nixon repeatedly refused to spend funds Congress had appropriated, prompting a legal and political showdown. The Act requires the president to notify Congress of any intent to impound funds and provides mechanisms for Congress to approve or reject such actions.

In casual or political discourse, you might also hear terms like "freezing" or "holding up" funds, but "impoundment" is the precise legal and technical term when referring to already appropriated money.


@Grok
 
Tbird19482 said:
What do you call " suspending " funds that are already appropriated to help people in NEED, people that can NOT get by on what they are making and some working two or three jobs to get by ?
and the forest thing was a fucking metaphor,
Again you DON'T cut everything first then go in and look at a program to find it's waste and fraud you FIND the waste and fraud FIRST then you cut it, you don't hurt the people that NEED those programs that way.
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Any program that does not align with his agenda is going to be on the chopping block with that money suspended. We don’t need drag shows in Argentina, but we do need drug rehab programs for Americans.

We don’t need studies that determine how horny birds or ducks or squirrels or if they’re given cocaine.

USAID became a catch-all for bullshit. The legitimate programs will be moved over to the state department.
 
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