Dominion files $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit against MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell

Concart said:
Yes you do. Proving injury is a no brainer. Are you familiar with per se defamation? Maybe you should look it up.
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They'll have a hard time with that too since there are many, many people at various levels saying stuff about Dominion and their machines being hacked, operating incorrectly, etc. All Lindell would have to do to beat that is show those statements in court and ask why Dominion isn't suing every last one of those persons too. What I'm saying isn't a defense of what Lindell said, only that Dominion has a very steep hill to climb to prove defamation. Lindell can talk smack about Dominion right up until it hurts their bottom line, and they have to prove it did.
For per se defamation, you still need fairly clear evidence that you will be hurt in the future by those statements. I don't think Dominion is faced with orders cancelled or customers saying they're going elsewhere at this point. There aren't very many companies making voting machines so it should be easy to prove or disprove future harm.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They'll have a hard time with that too since there are many, many people at various levels saying stuff about Dominion and their machines being hacked, operating incorrectly, etc. All Lindell would have to do to beat that is show those statements in court and ask why Dominion isn't suing every last one of those persons too. What I'm saying isn't a defense of what Lindell said, only that Dominion has a very steep hill to climb to prove defamation. Lindell can talk smack about Dominion right up until it hurts their bottom line, and they have to prove it did.
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ROTFLMFAO!!!!! Go ahead and try that one in court. Just plain dumb. The lawyers would be laughed out of court if they actually tried to make such a claim. I can sue or not sue whoever the fuck I want to if they defamed me. And once again, you obviously don't understand per se. It means that the statement is so egregious that damages are assumed. You do not have to prove them. Can you read?
 
Concart said:
ROTFLMFAO!!!!! Go ahead and try that one in court. Just plain dumb. The lawyers would be laughed out of court if they actually tried to make such a claim. I can sue or not sue whoever the fuck I want to if they defamed me. And once again, you obviously don't understand per se. It means that the statement is so egregious that damages are assumed. You do not have to prove them. Can you read?
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What damages does Dominion suffer from statements so hyperbolic as to be obviously wrong? Lindell's claims are idiotic on their face. How is Dominion damaged by such nonsense?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What damages does Dominion suffer from statements so hyperbolic as to be obviously wrong? Lindell's claims are idiotic on their face. How is Dominion damaged by such nonsense?
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Their reputation is damaged. That's why it's called 'per se'. You know what 'per se' means, right? So, you admit that the statements are so hyperbolic that they are wrong? Can I assume that's your position? You don't believe the lies that are still being told by Trump and his cronies?
 
Concart said:
What link is that? I haven't posted a link hammerhead. Your link describes punitive damages. That's the bulk of what the defendants, especially Lindell, are most likely to end up paying if this goes to a jury.
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Um, he was posting to Gardner when he wrote that, not to you. Oops! lol
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They'll have a hard time with that too since there are many, many people at various levels saying stuff about Dominion and their machines being hacked, operating incorrectly, etc. All Lindell would have to do to beat that is show those statements in court and ask why Dominion isn't suing every last one of those persons too. What I'm saying isn't a defense of what Lindell said, only that Dominion has a very steep hill to climb to prove defamation. Lindell can talk smack about Dominion right up until it hurts their bottom line, and they have to prove it did.
For per se defamation, you still need fairly clear evidence that you will be hurt in the future by those statements. I don't think Dominion is faced with orders cancelled or customers saying they're going elsewhere at this point. There aren't very many companies making voting machines so it should be easy to prove or disprove future harm.
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Wrong. What other ppl are saying is inadmissible in court as hearsay. Lindell, in order to be successful, will have to provide valid evidence of doctored voting machines, as well as valid evidence of the alleged conspiracy to defraud the voters and corrupt the voting process. The burden will fall upon him to show that what he has been claiming is the truth. All Dominion has to show is 1) Lindell said ___ and ___ and ___, and 2) that his words caused the company harm (loss of sales, damaged reputation, threats to company employees, etc.)
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Um, he was posting to Gardner when he wrote that, not to you. Oops! lol
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Well, with all the bullshit coming from him, its difficult to sort out what bullshit is directed at me. But that's burying the LEAD. Gardner admits the claims are obviously false. Maybe we're getting somewhere.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Wrong. What other ppl are saying is inadmissible in court as hearsay. Lindell, in order to be successful, will have to provide valid evidence of doctored voting machines, as well as valid evidence of the alleged conspiracy to defraud the voters and corrupt the voting process. The burden will fall upon him to show that what he has been claiming is the truth. All Dominion has to show is 1) Lindell said ___ and ___ and ___, and 2) that his words caused the company harm (loss of sales, damaged reputation, threats to company employees, etc.)
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And what's funny is that Lindell won't shut up. I wonder if PMP is representing him. His lawyer is incompetent.
 
reagansghost said:
better sell a few more pillows there Mikey!


Source: Axios

Dominion Voting Systems on Monday sued MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell for more than $1.3 billion in damages, alleging that the Trump ally exploited the baseless conspiracy theory that Dominion's voting machines rigged the election for Joe Biden to sell more pillows.

The big picture: Lindell is the latest Trump ally to face a multibillion-dollar lawsuit from Dominion or Smartmatic, another voting machine company subjected to a campaign of false claims about the election.

Pro-Trump lawyers Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani have each been sued by Dominion for $1.3 billion in damages.
Earlier this month, Smartmatic sued Powell, Giuliani, Fox News and some of the network's top hosts for $2.7 billion.

Lindell, who received a cease-and-desist letter from Dominion in January, told Axios at the time: "I want Dominion to put up their lawsuit because we have 100% evidence that China and other countries used their machines to steal the election."....HAHAHA

What they're saying: "Lindell’s statements have exposed Dominion to the most extreme hatred and contempt. Lindell himself called it the “biggest crime ever committed in election history against our country and the world," Dominion wrote in its 115-page complaint.


https://www.axios.com/dominion-mike-lindell-defamation-aed0d355-6eee-4a61-b3ca-2a5ecfeefb57.html
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Mike's plan is going well. Once it gets to court his evidence has to be heard.

:evilnod:
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Dominion is unlikely to get anything from it. They'd have to prove that their company lost something close to that in sales because of Lindell's comments. That's incredibly unlikely. So, this is just Dominion trying to punish Lindell for talking smack about them. At best the court will find Lindell has to shut the hell up. But monetary damages require proving you were actually harmed monetarily. I doubt Dominion can do that.
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Dear fucking idiot

Trump crazies have been sending lovely trumpian messages to that corporation


You dumb shits threaten people who trump hates


The court will be given a mountain of threatening correspondence from the same kind of trump idiots as from the capital


Those idiots selfied their selfs to prison because they are so fucking stupid as to think the internets is anonymous



Fucking idiots


Fuck you very much
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What damages does Dominion suffer from statements so hyperbolic as to be obviously wrong? Lindell's claims are idiotic on their face. How is Dominion damaged by such nonsense?
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They are damaged because Fox News gives him a platform to spew his lies about dominion which helps destroy our nation along with dominions reputation


Not one shred of it is true


We will remember you admitted that in this thread


Tell us why so many Republican Fox viewers admit to believing these lies?


You just claimed it’s soooooo ridicules no one would believe it


You lied huh diarrhea puddle
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Too bad for them. He'll destroy the company in order to continue to support the cult leader who doesn't give a shit if he lives or dies. Nice.
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I'm guessing the board probably consists of family members and friends. Maybe some VC guys, but I doubt they would put up with this, and they would have demanded some voice on the board. Lindell is without question chairman as well as CEO.
 
I can't wait for this courtroom moment:

"Your honor, my clients statements are so absurd and stupid that only 50 million or so people actually believed them. Everyone else realized my client is full of shit, so the suit should be dismissed."
 
Concart said:
I'm guessing the board probably consists of family members and friends. Maybe some VC guys, but I doubt they would put up with this, and they would have demanded some voice on the board. Lindell is without question chairman as well as CEO.
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I look forward to seeing them go down in flames.
 
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