Drunken Jet Blue pilot removed from cockpit; 0.17% on breathalyzer

I dunno. I had a gummy once and for some reason decided to run to the gas station about 15 minutes away. Probably to get Doritos. At any rate, by the time I got to the end of the driveway, which seemed to take at least 20 minutes, I decided that maybe it would be a better idea to stay home. :laugh:

I smoke a couple of times a month, more often during the summer when I am going out a lot. I cannot drive at all until the next day. I am either with someone who isn't smoking OR drinking, or I do LYFT.

I really hate flying, I do it, but I don't like it, and this story didn't help.
 
If your captain announces that he'll do a barrel roll and he does it, that's when you have to worry.

If he does it well, it's a lot of fun. :thup:

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I smoke a couple of times a month, more often during the summer when I am going out a lot. I cannot drive at all until the next day. I am either with someone who isn't smoking OR drinking, or I do LYFT.

I really hate flying, I do it, but I don't like it, and this story didn't help.

Would you feel less uneasy if you brought along a breathalyzer and had the pilots test in front of you? :)

IMO with all the ppl around him who do not want to die, any pilot who shows up after drinking is going to get narked out by his/her coworkers -- the other pilot, the flight attendants, etc.
 
Being a pilot, like being a teacher, aint what it used to be.

Pilots used to be highly paid, but their unions have been broken, so now they are not highly paid anymore. Their unions were broken through a series of corporate bankruptcies. Basically, management was able to get out of any contract they signed through strategic bankruptcies.

Meanwhile teachers used to be one of the few fields an intelligent, educated woman could easily work in. Women had a choice of being teachers, nurses, or secretaries. Sure some could do more, but it was difficult. When half the population is forced into a few fields, you can massively underpay them. That has chanced. Women can do whatever they want, so we would have to pay teachers better to get good teachers.

Somewhere along the line, Republicans have decided they can fire their way to good teachers. There is a shortage of teachers, so firing a bunch of teachers is counter productive. The few teachers that do get fired by management are usually the best teachers, because they make the rest look bad. Management is usually very happy to hold on to the worst teachers, because at least they fill seats, which in a teacher shortage is the most important metric used.

If we raised salaries, and respect for teachers, then competition would raise the quality of teachers. That is Finland's strategy. They made teacher a well paid, well respected career, and now only the best become teachers. They do not bother with a lot of testing, but still are among the top education systems in the world.
 
He was probably having trouble walking at that level of blood alcohol. He may have been able to barely hold it together and walk, but it was borderline. He was in no condition to drive, much less fly a commercial airline.

There are actually some very generous alcohol rehab packages if he turned himself in. Had he said before he entered the plane, "I have made a horrible mistake, and have shown up drunk. I should not fly." He would not be in legal trouble, and would probably keep his job. He would go through rehab, but if he is a bad enough drinker that he is showing up to work drunk, that might not be a bad idea.

That would all require him to admit he was less than perfect.

yes. but the no redemption policy of y'alls cancel culture stops people from being honest and changing.
 
Pilots used to be highly paid, but their unions have been broken, so now they are not highly paid anymore. Their unions were broken through a series of corporate bankruptcies. Basically, management was able to get out of any contract they signed through strategic bankruptcies.

Meanwhile teachers used to be one of the few fields an intelligent, educated woman could easily work in. Women had a choice of being teachers, nurses, or secretaries. Sure some could do more, but it was difficult. When half the population is forced into a few fields, you can massively underpay them. That has chanced. Women can do whatever they want, so we would have to pay teachers better to get good teachers.

Somewhere along the line, Republicans have decided they can fire their way to good teachers. There is a shortage of teachers, so firing a bunch of teachers is counter productive. The few teachers that do get fired by management are usually the best teachers, because they make the rest look bad. Management is usually very happy to hold on to the worst teachers, because at least they fill seats, which in a teacher shortage is the most important metric used.

If we raised salaries, and respect for teachers, then competition would raise the quality of teachers. That is Finland's strategy. They made teacher a well paid, well respected career, and now only the best become teachers. They do not bother with a lot of testing, but still are among the top education systems in the world.

Getting rid of shitty and dumb propaganda marxist crt teachers would encourage good and smart people to come into the industry.

the teaching professsion selects for stupid, for the revolution of dumb.
 
It's a Hollywood caricature dating to before WWII. I've never seen a drunk pilot at work.
Many people who get DWIs are not drunk. Legally drunk and actually drunk are two very different things. I should have said 'under the influence', instead of 'drunk'.

It conjures two totally different images.
 
All correct. I have no sympathy for someone with such poor judgement. He'll probably do a few years in prison for this mistake.

Prison time, and will never fly a plane again. He really should have just been honest and admitted he needed help.
 
Getting rid of shitty and dumb propaganda marxist crt teachers would encourage good and smart people to come into the industry.

the teaching professsion selects for stupid, for the revolution of dumb.

You had to repeat more than one grade, didn't you? It shows.
 
Would you feel less uneasy if you brought along a breathalyzer and had the pilots test in front of you? :)

IMO with all the ppl around him who do not want to die, any pilot who shows up after drinking is going to get narked out by his/her coworkers -- the other pilot, the flight attendants, etc.

Doubtful since, IMO, it's a control issue for most white knuckle fliers; they're enclosed in a a metal tube hurtling through space and there's not a damn thing they can do about it if something goes wrong. On a bus they can have the fantasy that, should there be an accident or the bus driver keels over that they can jump clear or take the wheel. That's impossible on an airliner.

That said, airline travel is the safest form of travel. Most travelers are more likely to get whacked driving to or from the airport than experience any harm on an airliner, but that's not how the human mind works.
 
Doubtful since, IMO, it's a control issue for most white knuckle fliers; they're enclosed in a a metal tube hurtling through space and there's not a damn thing they can do about it if something goes wrong. On a bus they can have the fantasy that, should there be an accident or the bus driver keels over that they can jump clear or take the wheel. That's impossible on an airliner.

That said, airline travel is the safest form of travel. Most travelers are more likely to get whacked driving to or from the airport than experience any harm on an airliner, but that's not how the human mind works.

Yes, that's it. Nearly impossible to overcome for me. I have some stories, believe me. Though I never made a scene, to be clear, nor would I. I am better when I fly with someone, but unfortunately, I often have to fly alone for business purposes. One time I was flying cross country, and some woman across the aisle actually yelled out, while we were taxiing down the runway "WHAT'S THAT NOISE?". I just sat there, wide-eyed, and I was lucky because my seatmate saw my face and said to me ignore her, she's an idiot. I think he said it was the wings or something. He was so mad. I would have killed her if I wasn't too scared to move. lol
 
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