Drunken Jet Blue pilot removed from cockpit; 0.17% on breathalyzer

[Into the Night]

Some people handle their liquor better but that fact remains they are not 100%.

Makes no difference. Alcohol has the same effect on everybody. Some people are just better at hiding it.

Again, yes, I can probably fly an airplane shitfaced...as long as nothing goes wrong.

You don't fly airplanes.

Flying incapacitated is putting the lives of others at risk; either on the plane or on the ground.

Both.

Anyone who does that doesn't deserve to fly.

So...you don't deserve to fly.

 

[Into the Night]

You have a victim mentality which explains why you are a loser who blames others for your life's failures:

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-a-victim-mentality
Signs You Have a Victimhood Mindset
It’s normal to be unsatisfied in some parts of your life. But it’s important to look at the bigger picture. If you notice similar patterns across different areas of your life, you might have a victim mentality.

The first step to solving a problem is to identify and acknowledge it. Look for these signs in yourself to see if you might have adopted a victim mentality:

*You blame others for the way your life is
*You truly think life is against you
*You have trouble coping with problems in your life and feel powerless against them
*You feel stuck in life and approach things with a negative attitude
*You feel attacked when someone tries to offer helpful feedback
*Feeling bad for yourself gives you relief or pleasure
*You attract people who blame others and complain about their life
*It’s difficult for you to examine yourself and make changes

No victim listed here. You are hallucinating again.

 

[Into the Night]

It's on topic.

Insulting people is not being on topic.

If the pilot in the OP accepts responsibility for his actions, he could return to flying one day. If he's a fucking loser like you, he'll sulk, blame others and be a loser for life.

You don't fly for major airlines by having a loser attitude.

 

[Into the Night]

You're here, ain'tcha? You're a loser who blames others for your problems, ain'tcha?

OTOH, it's your path to choose. If you want to walk the path of loser with a victim mentality, no one can make you change your mind.

Insult fallacies. Stay on topic.

 

[Into the Night]

Most of the people for "banning the box" are Democrats. Basically, they want employers not to ask whether you have been convicted of a crime in the past. We can let people get on with their lives, without having to try to explain a several decade old conviction.

Meanwhile, Republicans are completely against banning the box.

What do you mean by 'banning the box'? You mean the flight recorders?? They are part of every large aircraft. I don't know anyone that wants to ban them.
As far as past criminal history, that is easily obtained. They don't have to ask such a question. It's a pointless waste of time in an interview.

 

[Into the Night]

I don't know what the alcohol situation on planes these days is, but I always liked those little mini bottles of booze. It was basically equivalent to one and a half shots of bourbon or vodka, just the perfect amount.

It varies a bit from year to year. Of course, here you are discussing passengers getting drunk, not the crew.

 

[Into the Night]

I agree that if it is a crime of child molesting, they should never be a teacher, but let's say someone was arrested for smoking marijuana when they were 18 years old, does that really play a part in whether they can work in a grocery store at age 50?

The box is overused.



The best thing former convicts can do is get out of prison, get a job, pay taxes, and not be a burden on the taxpayers. Prisoners are burdens on taxpayers.




And probably a dozen of them had jobs

Maybe you had better explain what you mean by 'the box'.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What do you mean by 'banning the box'? You mean the flight recorders?? They are part of every large aircraft. I don't know anyone that wants to ban them.
As far as past criminal history, that is easily obtained. They don't have to ask such a question. It's a pointless waste of time in an interview.

No, he doesn't. Scroll up, Sybil, and try reading more instead of posting about shit you don't understand.

 

[Into the Night]

The facts prove a majority of them, about 2/3s, had mental health issues. Self-medicating with drugs is common among some forms of mental illness.

https://www.verywellmind.com/co-occurring-disorders-mental-health-and-addiction-4158280
The numbers do not lie. Mental illness and addiction often overlap. In fact, nearly 9 million people have a co-occurring disorder according to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Yet, only 7 percent of these individuals get treatment for both conditions. And nearly 60 percent receive no treatment at all.

You are not a psychologist either. Making up numbers is a fallacy, dude.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are not a psychologist either. Making up numbers is a fallacy, dude.

You're no pilot. It's obvious. Stop making up stories about yourself.

Makes no difference. Alcohol has the same effect on everybody. Some people are just better at hiding it.
You don't fly airplanes.
Both.
So...you don't deserve to fly.

No victim listed here. You are hallucinating again.

Insulting people is not being on topic.

You don't fly for major airlines by having a loser attitude.

Insult fallacies. Stay on topic.

I could respond to each post and call you Sybil or Psycho in each one but it won't change you.

OTOH, everyone can read your posts and think "Wow, that boy ain't right in the head!"

 

[Into the Night]

LOL What a fantasy life you must live, Sybil.

Sybil isn't here. You are still hallucinating.

In the real world, there are real consequences for one's actions.

Never said otherwise.

See examples below. What circular?

Go look it up stupid. faa.gov.

You are misunderstanding again; there's a difference between turning oneself in for treatment and being caught red-handed trying to fly drunk.

Yes. So?

Former Alaska Airlines pilot sentenced to year in prison for flying while drunk

An airline pilot has been jailed for 10 months after turning up drunk to fly a plane to the United States.
Glendon Gulliver, 63, was due to fly United Airlines flight UA162 from Glasgow to Newark on 2 August 2019.

Special pleading fallacies. Gulliver wasn't even flying in the United States!

 

[Into the Night]

Care to make a wager on this? I say he loses his ticket with no guarantee of having it or his job returned upon completing treatment. After a year he can reapply for his flight certificates, but the medical asks the specific question about alcohol arrests.

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pilotsafetybrochures/media/alcohol.pdf

https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/medical_certification/

This is not a pilots license or application for a pilot's license.
It's a medical certificate form.

You obviously have no idea what form does what, or what the FAA's position is on this, or even how to fly an airplane. You are just grabbing at random straws.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

...Go look it up stupid. faa.gov...

Can't find what doesn't exist, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

True. There's mentally ill and drug addicts too.

Bigotry.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

This is not a pilots license or application for a pilot's license.
It's a medical certificate form.

You obviously have no idea what form does what, or what the FAA's position is on this, or even how to fly an airplane. You are just grabbing at random straws.

No shit, Sybil. If you were sane enough to have kept up with the conversation you'd have already known that fact.

Care to make a wager on this? I say he loses his ticket with no guarantee of having it or his job returned upon completing treatment. After a year he can reapply for his flight certificates, but the medical asks the specific question about alcohol arrests.

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pilotsafetybrochures/media/alcohol.pdf

https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/medical_certification/

 

[Into the Night]

Maybe he can get a job digging ditches with you.

Nah. I don't let someone like that drive a tractor until they can show they are not impaired and won't be impaired.
The only ditches I dig are my own anyway, usually to lay a new utility line on my property. Sometimes to emplace mortars.

 

[Into the Night]

Well, if it was an international flight he could have waited until he was in international airspace where there's no drunk flying laws...

If he can manage to keep the plane in the air for eight hours after his last drink, he could even land it in the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

Funny but doubtful they'd be free of any effects after only an hour.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/91.17
"(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety;"[/QUOTE

Again, you show a complete lack of knowledge of the aviation regulations.

 

[Into the Night]

She's talking about smoking pot, dumbass. Currently verboten for pilots. Try to keep up, Sybil.

Sybil isn't here. You are still hallucinating.

It is not forbidden for a pilot to smoke pot, so long as he is completely free of it's influence before he flies. Yes, that means no trace of THC in his bloodstream would appear in a drug test.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Sybil isn't here. You are still hallucinating.

It is not forbidden for a pilot to smoke pot, so long as he is completely free of it's influence before he flies. Yes, that means no trace of THC in his bloodstream would appear in a drug test.

Sybil, you epitomize the people who live on Mount Stupid.

https://aviatorshq.com/can-pilots-smoke-marijuana-weed/

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