Drunken Jet Blue pilot removed from cockpit; 0.17% on breathalyzer

[Into the Night]

Exactly. I have zero sympathy for such a person.

Additionally, there's a program called HIMS supported by both the FAA and the pilot unions. The drunken dumbass has no excuse for not getting help except that he's a selfish bastard too fucking stupid to be a pilot.
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Heh. I've met a lot of stupid pilots (mechanics have a special dislike for them!). By the time you get enough experience and get all the ratings required to fly the airlines, most of those are weeded out. Occasionally, one will slip through.
U.S. pilots are the best trained in the world.

Unlike you, I have sympathy for people suffering from alcoholism or any other drug habit...even pilots. It is curable, but it isn't easy. It wish this poor guy the best of luck completing such treatment successfully.

 

[Into the Night]

Flight Attendants would prefer no alcohol aboard flights.

Bigotry. You don't get to speak for all flight attendants. Omniscience fallacy.

It's illegal to board a drunk but, unless the Captain knows about it, they often slip aboard. No test needed. Just a "You're drunk, you don't fly". Period.

No such regulation. You are making shit up again.

I've thrown off a few drunks in my time.

BULL. You are not a flight attendant. You are not an airline pilot. At best, you're just a dumb pudknocker.

 

[Into the Night]

All correct. I have no sympathy for someone with such poor judgement. He'll probably do a few years in prison for this mistake.

No. The FAA does not put people in prison for this.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Heh. I've met a lot of stupid pilots (mechanics have a special dislike for them!). By the time you get enough experience and get all the ratings required to fly the airlines, most of those are weeded out. Occasionally, one will slip through.
U.S. pilots are the best trained in the world.

Unlike you, I have sympathy for people suffering from alcoholism or any other drug habit...even pilots. It is curable, but it isn't easy. It wish this poor guy the best of luck completing such treatment successfully.

Maybe he can get a job digging ditches with you.

 

[Into the Night]

True. OTOH, all pilots should be clear headed. It's not for routine stuff, but for when the SHTF; bad weather, mechanical issues and other problems.

They need to be clearheaded for the routine stuff too.

 

[Into the Night]

But


In a hour they are good to fly


No biggy

Nope. EIGHT hours, minimum.

 

[Into the Night]

If your captain announces that he'll do a barrel roll and he does it, that's when you have to worry.

Depends on the captain and the aircraft. If your captain happens to be an air force pilot and you are going along in a Thunderbirds ride, you an probably expect a barrel roll or two.
If you are in a passenger jet, no. They are not going to do aerobatics. The plane could take it, but it throws stuff around in the cabin.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

By your logic, your party is completely Muslim.

i disagree.

 

[Into the Night]

It's a Hollywood caricature dating to before WWII.

No, it isn't.

I've never seen a drunk pilot at work.

You don't work.

It's a common airline interview question to ask a pilot applicant "Your captain shows up to fly and smells of liquor. What do you do?"

Notice that it was the TSA who, supposedly, spotted the drunk. Buffalo isn't a Jetblue base so the entire crew was on an overnight and probably traveled from the hotel together. No one noticed the Captain was shitfaced? I'm not buying it. The FAA will be looking into Jetblue's culture on why this Captain even made it to the airport.

Not likely.

 

[Into the Night]

I smoke a couple of times a month, more often during the summer when I am going out a lot. I cannot drive at all until the next day. I am either with someone who isn't smoking OR drinking, or I do LYFT.

I really hate flying, I do it, but I don't like it, and this story didn't help.

Heh. It's safer than LYFT!

 

[Into the Night]

Would you feel less uneasy if you brought along a breathalyzer and had the pilots test in front of you?

IMO with all the ppl around him who do not want to die, any pilot who shows up after drinking is going to get narked out by his/her coworkers -- the other pilot, the flight attendants, etc.

If you are that scared to fly, why are you boarding an aircraft in the first place??

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Well, if it was an international flight he could have waited until he was in international airspace where there's no drunk flying laws...

 

[Dutch Uncle]

But

In a hour they are good to fly

No biggy

Funny but doubtful they'd be free of any effects after only an hour.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/91.17
"(3) While using any drug that affects the person's faculties in any way contrary to safety;"

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Nope. EIGHT hours, minimum.

She's talking about smoking pot, dumbass. Currently verboten for pilots. Try to keep up, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

yes. but the no redemption policy of y'alls cancel culture stops people from being honest and changing.

I have to agree with you on that one!

 

[Into the Night]

Getting rid of shitty and dumb propaganda marxist crt teachers would encourage good and smart people to come into the industry.

the teaching professsion selects for stupid, for the revolution of dumb.

Schools don't teach you how to fly (other than flight schools).

 

[Into the Night]

Many people who get DWIs are not drunk. Legally drunk and actually drunk are two very different things. I should have said 'under the influence', instead of 'drunk'.

It conjures two totally different images.

They are no two different things. Legally drunk is actually drunk.

 

[Into the Night]

Prison time, and will never fly a plane again. He really should have just been honest and admitted he needed help.

The FAA doesn't throw pilots into prison for this nor cancel their license. See the FAA circulars about this.

 

[Into the Night]

You have made up a fictitious straw man, and are raging against it. The real liberal policy on drug abuse encourages rehabilitation, and harm reduction.

No, his argument has merit. Your cancel culture stops people from being honest.

 

[Into the Night]

I've been struck by lightning while flying three times; once deadheading in the back and twice up front. Deadheading, I've also experienced turbulence and mechanical issues. If in uniform, when something happens, I can feel all eyes lock on me while reading my newspaper or book. At times I've been tempted to drop the newspaper, stand up and scream "We're all gonna die!!!" to see if it would turn into a scene from "Airplane!".

You're no pilot. It's obvious. Stop making up stories about yourself.