'Duck boat' design flaw flagged years ago

ThatOwlWoman said:
There are several tour boat outfits here in the UP, and all captains and personnel are Coast Guard trained and certified. They won't go out when Superior is acting frisky. The crappy things here are the kayak rental places. They will rent to rank newbies even on days with 4-5 foot seas. Every summer there are a number of CG rescues of kayakers who've gotten in trouble out on the Lake.
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The USCG does not train anyone other than people serving in the USCG. They license and that is it. If the skipper of this particular vessel had a license it would have been one of the lowest and easiest to obtain. You could almost do it online. The first thing anyone is taught about a passenger for hire license is the safety of the passengers.
Either way, he or she was not a mariner by a long shot. Please do not take this as being rude or argumentative.
 
Sailor said:
The USCG does not train anyone other than people serving in the USCG. They license and that is it. If the skipper of this particular vessel had a license it would have been one of the lowest and easiest to obtain. You could almost do it online. The first thing anyone is taught about a passenger for hire license is the safety of the passengers.
Either way, he or she was not a mariner by a long shot. Please do not take this as being rude or argumentative.
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Hmmm. I'll be argumentative! My husband took a CG boating safety course last year. It was a 16-week course that came with a certificate if you successfully passed it. It was *not* training on operating boats; it covered common sense safety stuff, CG regulations, navigation and knowledge of navigational markers, basic first aid, fire safety, radio operation, and so on. Classes were held at the Coast Guard station; the main instructor was a retired CG guy, plus they had occasional active-duty CG ppl as well. At the end we family members got a tour of the CG facility and rescue boat.... and pizza. Damn, those Coastie kids can eat them some pizza. lol

At any rate, the tour boat companies here have their personnel take this course and receive the certification.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Hmmm. I'll be argumentative! My husband took a CG boating safety course last year. It was a 16-week course that came with a certificate if you successfully passed it. It was *not* training on operating boats; it covered common sense safety stuff, CG regulations, navigation and knowledge of navigational markers, basic first aid, fire safety, radio operation, and so on. Classes were held at the Coast Guard station; the main instructor was a retired CG guy, plus they had occasional active-duty CG ppl as well. At the end we family members got a tour of the CG facility and rescue boat.... and pizza. Damn, those Coastie kids can eat them some pizza. lol

At any rate, the tour boat companies here have their personnel take this course and receive the certification.
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That is not argumentative. You actually just said what I pointed out. I believe the course you are referring too is a CG Auxiliary boating safety course.
 
I say u get on ANY boat at your own risk!

Because ANY boat can go down!!! Fact! And you know that before u step on board!
 
Sailor said:
That is pretty damn good. He should not be disappointed at all.
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I know, right? He's very self-driven. Although to hear him tell it, I'm the driver. lol We recently had this exchange while watching TV:

Me (watching young husband and wife drive off towards the docks on Deadliest Catch): I wonder how *that's* going to work out?
Him: What's that?
Me: Her being the captain and him being the deckhand.
Him: I don't see your point. It's always like that in marriage.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I know, right? He's very self-driven. Although to hear him tell it, I'm the driver. lol We recently had this exchange while watching TV:

Me (watching young husband and wife drive off towards the docks on Deadliest Catch): I wonder how *that's* going to work out?
Him: What's that?
Me: Her being the captain and him being the deckhand.
Him: I don't see your point. It's always like that in marriage.
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THAT IS FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!! And do TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
My dad (the long-legged seaman as Sailor puts it, LOL) loved the last 25 years of his life after the war peacefully cruising through the Intercoastal 6 days a week from 8 to 5 working for Gold Coast Cruises Sightseeing. They had a fleet of 6 boats if I remember correctly including one double decker glass bottom boat. Those boats' hulls were converted PT boats, shallow draft, steady and safe. In those days all the captains had come out of the Navy or Merchant Marines with licenses in glass frames posted somewhere at the helm. As time went on I actually don't know what qualifications might have been needed. Each boat embarked with a captain and 2 crew members. There was no radar on these boats then, but I always remember dad being on the ship-to-shore a couple times a day just checking on any weather or a quick chat.

A little sample of the hulls...(I think it was most similar to the Higgins or Huckins)

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We also had our own boat in the 50's, looked a LOT like this photo I found in a Bing search...

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Stretch said:
My dad (the long-legged seaman as Sailor puts it, LOL) loved the last 25 years of his life after the war peacefully cruising through the Intercoastal 6 days a week from 8 to 5 working for Gold Coast Cruises Sightseeing. They had a fleet of 6 boats if I remember correctly including one double decker glass bottom boat. Those boats' hulls were converted PT boats, shallow draft, steady and safe. In those days all the captains had come out of the Navy or Merchant Marines with licenses in glass frames posted somewhere at the helm. As time went on I actually don't know what qualifications might have been needed. Each boat embarked with a captain and 2 crew members. There was no radar on these boats then, but I always remember dad being on the ship-to-shore a couple times a day just checking on any weather or a quick chat.

A little sample of the hulls...(I think it was most similar to the Higgins or Huckins)

d137dc072c987bbe55fa85369c513c74--royal-navy-us-navy.jpg




We also had our own boat in the 50's, looked a LOT like this photo I found in a Bing search...

28-chris-craft-cruiser-40j-039-3.5ino.jpg
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Stretch, your Dad was awesome! And his children prove it.
 
S #215 & #216

Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. iirc in the '60's such pleasure craft were known as "cabin cruisers".
There was a lot of work involved, because there was so much wood.
Their fiberglass replacements require just a fraction of the upkeep.
 
sear said:
S #215 & #216

Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. iirc in the '60's such pleasure craft were known as "cabin cruisers".
There was a lot of work involved, because there was so much wood.
Their fiberglass replacements require just a fraction of the upkeep.
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Boats are just a hole in the water in which one pours money into............
 
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