DUI truckdriver who killed 5 bicyclists NOT charged with murder

[Into the Night]

there is no such thing as "states rights" there IS Federalism -which IS "states rights" (balance of power)
damn sam , you are konfuzed

No. The United States is a republic made of States, which themselves are sovereign republics.
The Constitution not only describes and defines the federal government, it delineates what powers the federal government has and all rest resides with the States, or the People.

Each State has a right to exist as a State of the Union.
The Union is not a State, but it is a nation.
A State does not have to belong to the Union. Any State has the right to secede from that Union at any time. If they do so, they are an independent nation. They may even form a union under another government as a State in that union. That union is a different nation.

The Democrats are not federalists. Dutch Uncle is wrong on that one. The Democrats want to destroy the Constitution of the United States and implement fascism by oligarchy.

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah. Silly me. I had no idea people took Meth to fall asleep.

They don't. They can't control when they fall asleep. Could easily happen while driving a truck, for example.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yup. Well, in this case, the bicyclists got the death penalty. A tragic outcome nevertheless.

"Share the Road' makes a poor epitaph.

You don't fuck around on these desert highways. The laws of physics is pretty hard to ignore.

Share the road when it comes to bicycles is Stay the fuck out of traffic on the goddamned shoulder! Don't ride down the middle of the highway in traffic doing 75 mph + at 10 mph and expect not to get run over.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Methamphetamine is an illegal drug, except in Oregon. There is no 'allowable level of meth'. It is the news media fucking up again.

More interesting would be, what if this guy had THC in his system? Would he be charged the same way for having smoked pot two days prior?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

They are people, but in this case, they were very stupid people. Highway 95 south of Boulder City, where this accident took place is a VERY dangerous place to ride a bicycle. The organizers of this event were being very stupid. It was only a matter of time before an accident like this took place. It suppose the only consolation is that the driver was DUI, and will be probably be convicted, serving anywhere from 10 years to life in Nevada State prisons.

No they aren't.

 

[Walt]

Methamphetamine is an illegal drug, except in Oregon.

I know it is legal in prescription form, and is even found in very low levels in some non-prescription nasal decongestant, so you are wrong about it being completely illegal.

There is no 'allowable level of meth'. It is the news media fucking up again.

It was the prosecutor in the case that specifically said he had nine times the allowable level, so not the news media. I did not know they had a specific allowable level.

 

[Into the Night]

Share the road when it comes to bicycles is Stay the fuck out of traffic on the goddamned shoulder! Don't ride down the middle of the highway in traffic doing 75 mph + at 10 mph and expect not to get run over.

Unfortunately, roads like SR95 and many farm roads have no shoulder, other than a gravel one, if that. Don't ride bikes on dangerous roads.

 

[Into the Night]

More interesting would be, what if this guy had THC in his system? Would he be charged the same way for having smoked pot two days prior?

Yes. Although THC is legal in Nevada, it is still considered an influence when driving, like alcohol.

 

[Into the Night]

No they aren't.

Bicyclists are people. You're denying that they are doesn't change that. It only indicates that you are a first class jerk.

 

[Into the Night]

I know it is legal in prescription form, and is even found in very low levels in some non-prescription nasal decongestant, so you are wrong about it being completely illegal.

Nope. Amphetimine is not methamphetimine.

It was the prosecutor in the case that specifically said he had nine times the allowable level, so not the news media.

There is no prosecutor yet. False authority fallacy.

I did not know they had a specific allowable level.

They don't. It's zero (except in Oregon).

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Bicyclists are people. You're denying that they are doesn't change that. It only indicates that you are a first class jerk.

No they aren't.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

was it these critical mass people? I hope so.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Unfortunately, roads like SR95 and many farm roads have no shoulder, other than a gravel one, if that. Don't ride bikes on dangerous roads.

It depends on where they were. A lot of 95 has a paved shoulder like this:

Plenty of room to ride on the shoulder and even a rumble strip to warn cars they're drifting off onto the shoulder.

And there are older parts that haven't been upgraded yet like this:

As you can see in this photo of the site, the bicyclists should have been on the shoulder of the road and not in the middle of it with a slow moving "chase vehicle." They created an unnecessary hazard on that highway.

 

[Walt]

There is no prosecutor yet. False authority fallacy.

The article specifically says there are prosecutors, and they have filed 12 felony charges against the truck driver. If you have some better information, feel free to post it. But, I am not going to just take your word for it. After all, you claimed there was no such thing as viral pneumonia.

 

[War=Peace]

He'll get a 5 year sentence and do half of that as america continues to coddle these killers. The monster has an american-sounding name but he looks like an illegal.

Killer driver faces minimal consequences...

Must be a day that ends in day...

 

[Into the Night]

It depends on where they were. A lot of 95 has a paved shoulder like this:

Plenty of room to ride on the shoulder and even a rumble strip to warn cars they're drifting off onto the shoulder.

And there are older parts that haven't been upgraded yet like this:

As you can see in this photo of the site, the bicyclists should have been on the shoulder of the road and not in the middle of it with a slow moving "chase vehicle." They created an unnecessary hazard on that highway.

Most of SR95 hasn't been upgraded to have paved shoulders and it won't be anytime in the near future. This includes the stretch of road they were going to ride on (and never made it!). This section, which is a divided highway, has narrow shoulders. Still a pretty dangerous to ride a bike with high speed traffic so close and nothing between you and it but a rumble strip.

 

[Into the Night]

The article specifically says there are prosecutors, and they have filed 12 felony charges against the truck driver. If you have some better information, feel free to post it. But, I am not going to just take your word for it. After all, you claimed there was no such thing as viral pneumonia.

The article is wrong. No prosecutor is assigned to this case. Yes, charges are filed, by the prosecutor's office, but that is an office, not a prosecutor.

...and no, there no such thing as viral pneumonia. So much for that off topic comment and your bulverism.

 

[Walt]

Farm roads and State highways is NO place for a bicycle.

Farm roads often have slow moving farm equipment, in fact that is one of their purposes. If you are driving too quickly to stop in time for this equipment, the fault is on you. Maybe you should stop racing around on farm roads, and leave them for what they are meant to be for.

By the way, one of the original reasons for farm roads is for bikes.

 

[floridafan]

Why should he be? The bicyclists were riding in the middle of the highway posted for 75 mph. If they were too stupid to stay on the shoulder and out of traffic moving that fast that's on them.

As an aside, I was driving down Arizona 79 a few years ago at roughly 75 mph in a truck towing a trailer and loaded with about a ton of tools and building supplies. I came over a hill and there were between 20 and 30 bicyclists, followed by a van with it's blinkers on, doing all of about maybe 10 mph. I couldn't pass because of oncoming traffic and nearly rear ended the van which would have catapulted forward into the bicyclists.
I immediately called the Pinal County Sheriff's via 911 to report this illegal and incredibly dangerous bullshit by these retard bicyclists. I hope the whole group got whopping massive criminal tickets for that shit because they deserved it creating what was a huge safety hazard.

Is there ever a day in your miserable life, sweetie, that you can stop lying?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Is there ever a day in your miserable life, sweetie, that you can stop lying?

That is an actual incident. I was driving from Phoenix to Oracle Arizona and just South of the Chaparral Steakhouse on 79 when it occurred. I have two lots on "First" Timberline off Mt. Lemon Highway there. You can look all that up on Google Maps if you want. The incident is described accurately.