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Taichiliberal said:
What case are you referring to? Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin after initiating a pursuit despite being identified by Martin (who ran away, according to Zimmerman) and then getting out of his car and pursuing him after being told by the dispatch that was not necessary, as the cops were on the way.

And now; you're nothing more then a lying, fucked up piece of shit, who is unable to actually see the truth.
You, as always, have just decided to make your self look even more stupid then you truly are; because the chronology of the 911 transcript will show that you've just got your head firmly implanted up your ass and you enjoy the smell.

Martin, an unarmed teenager going home at night, gets tailed and confronted by an armed stranger. But according to folk like you, he doesn't get the right to defend himself because Other black folk committed crimes in the area. Only slavering bigots and stupid people buy into that.
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USFREEDOM911 said:
You're own video (starting at 4:14) shows nothing to suggest that he continues to FOLLOW or PURSUE Trayvon, after the dispatcher tells him "OK, we don't need you to do that".
Instead of listening to a recording, where someone has inserted their own opinion into the video, why don't you just read an factual transcript?
I've made it even easier for you.
Everything leading up to the Dispatcher telling Zimmerman "OK, we don't need you to do that" is in Blue and everything from the Dispatcher telling Zimmerman "OK, we don't need you to do that", is in Red

Please show where it suggest that Zimmerman is still following Trayvon, AFTER the Dispatcher told him "OK, we don't need you to do that".

I will be gracious in the acceptance of your apology and your comment, showing that you lied; because the chronology of the transcript will show that you are and have been wrong.

Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department.

Zimmerman: Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, it's Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's here now, he was just staring.

Dispatcher: OK, he's just walking around the area…

Zimmerman: looking at all the houses.

Dispatcher: OK…

Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.

Dispatcher: OK-you said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?

Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse…

Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse, do you know what the-he's near the clubhouse right now?

Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me.

Dispatcher: OK.

Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.

Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?

Zimmerman: He's got button on his shirt, late teens.

Dispatcher: Late teens. Ok.

Zimmerman: Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out, he's got something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is.

Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything, ok?

Zimmerman: (unclear) See if you can get an officer over here.

Dispatcher: Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman: Okay. These (expletive) they always get away. Yep. When you come to the clubhouse you come straight in and make a left. Actually you would go past the clubhouse.

Dispatcher: So it's on the lefthand side from the clubhouse?

Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left, uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. (expletive) he's running.

Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.

Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?

Zimmerman: The back entrance…(expletive)(unclear)

Dispatcher: Are you following him?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Ok.

Dispatcher: Alright sir what is your name?

Zimmerman: George…He ran.

Dispatcher: Alright George what's your last name?

A clicking or knocking sound can be heard here

Zimmerman: Zimmerman

Dispatcher: And George what's the phone number you're calling from?

Clicking or knocking sound is heard again

Zimmerman: [phone number removed]

Dispatcher: Alright George we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman: Yeah.

Dispatcher: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman: Um, if they come in through the, uh, (knocking sound) gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, (knocking sound) straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes, that's my truck...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?

Zimmerman: I don't know, it's a cut through so I don't know the address.

Dispatcher: Okay do you live in the area?

Zimmerman: Yeah, I...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?

Zimmerman: It's a home it's [house number removed], (knocking sound) oh crap I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is.

Dispatcher: Okay do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?

Zimmerman: Yeah that's fine.

Dispatcher: Alright George, I'll let them know to meet you around there, okay?

Zimmerman: Actually could you have them, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?

Dispatcher: Okay, yeah that's no problem.

Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?

Dispatcher: Yeah I got it [phone number removed]

Zimmerman: Yeah you got it.

Dispatcher: Okay no problem, I'll let them know to call you when you're in the area.

Zimmerman: Thanks.

Dispatcher: You're welcome.
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GZ describes Martin coming to "check him out" in his STATIONARY car, then "running away". In the interim he gives location and the dispatch tells him that the cops are on their way.

That's it, his job is done. From this point on GZ INITIATES A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED! The ONLY way he gives further possible locations is a result of his PURSUING Martin....which is why the dispatch told him "we don't need you to do that".

GZ was/is NOT a cop...hell, he wasn't even an official member of the neighborhood watch (who are forbidden to carry side arms). He did his job as a concerned citizen, and if he was so scared of Martin as a possible threat, then why FOLLOW HIM AND GET OUT OF HIS CAR...especially if he thought Martin was armed in some way? GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers. Only this time his fantasy got an unarmed kid just walking home killed.


Now, YOU can repeat your opinion, supposition and conjecture ad nauseum, but you cannot change the facts or the chain of events. And then there's this: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/16/3502481/juror-we-talked-stand-your-ground.html

Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
What case are you referring to? Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin after initiating a pursuit despite being identified by Martin (who ran away, according to Zimmerman) and then getting out of his car and pursuing him after being told by the dispatch that was not necessary, as the cops were on the way.
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As usual, you are completely misinformed or you are choosing to lie.

Zimmerman was already out of the car and following him when the police told him not to follow Martin any further.

Martin, an unarmed teenager going home at night, gets tailed and confronted by an armed stranger. But according to folk like you, he doesn't get the right to defend himself because Other black folk committed crimes in the area. Only slavering bigots and stupid people buy into that.
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No one stated Martin did not have the right to defend himself. But as you already stated... Martin ran away, Zimmerman had lost him. Yet Martin chose to come back and confront Zimmerman. All evidence suggests Martin then physically assaulted Zimmerman.
 
Taichiliberal said:
GZ describes Martin coming to "check him out" in his STATIONARY car, then "running away". In the interim he gives location and the dispatch tells him that the cops are on their way.

That's it, his job is done. From this point on GZ INITIATES A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED! The ONLY way he gives further possible locations is a result of his PURSUING Martin....which is why the dispatch told him "we don't need you to do that".

GZ was/is NOT a cop...hell, he wasn't even an official member of the neighborhood watch (who are forbidden to carry side arms). He did his job as a concerned citizen, and if he was so scared of Martin as a possible threat, then why FOLLOW HIM AND GET OUT OF HIS CAR...especially if he thought Martin was armed in some way? GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers. Only this time his fantasy got an unarmed kid just walking home killed.


Now, YOU can repeat your opinion, supposition and conjecture ad nauseum, but you cannot change the facts or the chain of events. And then there's this: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/16/3502481/juror-we-talked-stand-your-ground.html

Carry on.
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1. Your opinion means nothing, except in your fevered imagination.
2. Does not prove that he continued after being told not to; as the chronology of the posts will show that you said happened.
3. Just more of your fantasy; but the real reason Trayvon was shot and killed, was because Trayvon made the choice to act like a thug, confront Zimmerman, and then assault him.
4. Just more of NOTHING and no support of your assertion.

YOU FAILED, BUNKY and I've shown that you're nothing more then a fucking two faced liar. :)
 
Superfreak said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
What case are you referring to? Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin after initiating a pursuit despite being identified by Martin (who ran away, according to Zimmerman) and then getting out of his car and pursuing him after being told by the dispatch that was not necessary, as the cops were on the way.
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As usual, you are completely misinformed or you are choosing to lie.

Zimmerman was already out of the car and following him when the police told him not to follow Martin any further.



No one stated Martin did not have the right to defend himself. But as you already stated... Martin ran away, Zimmerman had lost him. Yet Martin chose to come back and confront Zimmerman. All evidence suggests Martin then physically assaulted Zimmerman.
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Once again, YOU ignore facts that don't support your supposition and conjecture. Here's how I schooled your like minded compadre http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...trial-begins-in-Florida&p=1445672#post1445672
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
1. Your opinion means nothing, except in your fevered imagination.
2. Does not prove that he continued after being told not to; as the chronology of the posts will show that you said happened.
3. Just more of your fantasy; but the real reason Trayvon was shot and killed, was because Trayvon made the choice to act like a thug, confront Zimmerman, and then assault him.
4. Just more of NOTHING and no support of your assertion.

YOU FAILED, BUNKY and I've shown that you're nothing more then a fucking two faced liar. :)
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
GZ describes Martin coming to "check him out" in his STATIONARY car, then "running away". In the interim he gives location and the dispatch tells him that the cops are on their way.

That's it, his job is done. From this point on GZ INITIATES A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED! The ONLY way he gives further possible locations is a result of his PURSUING Martin....which is why the dispatch told him "we don't need you to do that".

GZ was/is NOT a cop...hell, he wasn't even an official member of the neighborhood watch (who are forbidden to carry side arms). He did his job as a concerned citizen, and if he was so scared of Martin as a possible threat, then why FOLLOW HIM AND GET OUT OF HIS CAR...especially if he thought Martin was armed in some way? GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers. Only this time his fantasy got an unarmed kid just walking home killed.


Now, YOU can repeat your opinion, supposition and conjecture ad nauseum, but you cannot change the facts or the chain of events. And then there's this: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/1...ur-ground.html

You're done, toodles. Squawk away without fear of me further responding.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Once again, YOU ignore facts that don't support your supposition and conjecture. Here's how I schooled your like minded compadre http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...trial-begins-in-Florida&p=1445672#post1445672
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1) You are an idiot for posting a link to a post that is IN THIS THREAD
2) You did not school anyone. You stated your OPINION on what he should have done. You ignore the fact that at the time Zimmerman was told not to follow him, he had just acknowledged that he WAS following him. Meaning he was already out of his car. You pretend he was told not to and THEN got out of his car and followed him.

3) Please show me the 'facts' that I am ignoring.

4) You pretend that Zimmerman attacked Martin. That is not the case. The evidence does not suggest that at all.

5) by the transcript you posted, it is CLEAR that Zimmerman had lost Martin. So tell us... why is it that Martin suddenly reappeared? If he was afraid... why did he return?

6) All the evidence of the case shows that Martin physically assaulted Zimmerman. The jury felt there was enough evidence for reasonable doubt to exist. As they should have.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
GZ describes Martin coming to "check him out" in his STATIONARY car, then "running away". In the interim he gives location and the dispatch tells him that the cops are on their way.

That's it, his job is done. From this point on GZ INITIATES A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED! The ONLY way he gives further possible locations is a result of his PURSUING Martin....which is why the dispatch told him "we don't need you to do that".

GZ was/is NOT a cop...hell, he wasn't even an official member of the neighborhood watch (who are forbidden to carry side arms). He did his job as a concerned citizen, and if he was so scared of Martin as a possible threat, then why FOLLOW HIM AND GET OUT OF HIS CAR...especially if he thought Martin was armed in some way? GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers. Only this time his fantasy got an unarmed kid just walking home killed.


Now, YOU can repeat your opinion, supposition and conjecture ad nauseum, but you cannot change the facts or the chain of events. And then there's this: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/1...ur-ground.html

You're done, toodles. Squawk away without fear of me further responding.
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Still nothing to support your lying ass and your assertion that the Zimmerman left his car, AFTER the dispatcher told him not to; HUH??

1. Your opinion means nothing, except in your fevered imagination.
2. Does not prove that he continued after being told not to; as the chronology of the posts will show that you said happened.
3. Just more of your fantasy; but the real reason Trayvon was shot and killed, was because Trayvon made the choice to act like a thug, confront Zimmerman, and then assault him.
4. Just more of NOTHING and no support of your assertion.

YOU FAILED, BUNKY and I've shown that you're nothing more then a fucking two faced liar. :)
 
Taichiliberal said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
GZ describes Martin coming to "check him out" in his STATIONARY car, then "running away". In the interim he gives location and the dispatch tells him that the cops are on their way.

That's it, his job is done. From this point on GZ INITIATES A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED! The ONLY way he gives further possible locations is a result of his PURSUING Martin....which is why the dispatch told him "we don't need you to do that".

GZ was/is NOT a cop...hell, he wasn't even an official member of the neighborhood watch (who are forbidden to carry side arms). He did his job as a concerned citizen, and if he was so scared of Martin as a possible threat, then why FOLLOW HIM AND GET OUT OF HIS CAR...especially if he thought Martin was armed in some way? GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers. Only this time his fantasy got an unarmed kid just walking home killed.


Now, YOU can repeat your opinion, supposition and conjecture ad nauseum, but you cannot change the facts or the chain of events. And then there's this: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/1...ur-ground.html

You're done, toodles. Squawk away without fear of me further responding.
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opinion, supposition and conjecture ?

You talk about GZ initiating a chain of events that need not have happened. One could easily say TM started that chain of events...
by coming to 'check GZ out' or by running away......

GZ not being a cop ?....Not an official member of the watch ?...irrelevant
If he was so scared of Martin ?....obviously he wasn't scared at that point (before being attacked) or he wouldn't have tried to follow him
if he thought Martin was armed in some way? .....opinion, conjecture
GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers ....more opinion and conjecture

and here some more opinion, TM could have disappeared easily in that neighborhood...he could have gone to the apartment he was staying in and called the cops, etc.

So from another perspective, you're guilty of the same things you accuse others of .....

An unfortunate event but the jury heard the testimony, saw the evidence and rendered a verdict....time to let it go....
 
GZ skated.... shit happens....

OJ skated.... shit happens

Dunn didn't skate... and his shit will never be the same.

Sometimes the good guys win, sometimes they don't.
 
maineman said:
GZ skated.... shit happens....

OJ skated.... shit happens

Dunn didn't skate... and his shit will never be the same.

Sometimes the good guys win, sometimes they don't.
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I don't ever see him being released into the general population, if he is, he will end up like Dahmer.
 
Superfreak said:
1) You are an idiot for posting a link to a post that is IN THIS THREAD

Why don't you grow up? Bitching about a reference BUT NOT ADDRESSING THE CONTENT is a sign that you really don't have a decent retort or counter.
2) You did not school anyone. You stated your OPINION on what he should have done. You ignore the fact that at the time Zimmerman was told not to follow him, he had just acknowledged that he WAS following him. Meaning he was already out of his car. You pretend he was told not to and THEN got out of his car and followed him.

You're not too bright.....what you state is a lie because I NEVER STATED OR ALLUDED TO WHAT YOU ACCUSE ME OF IN YOUR LAST SENTENCE. Obviously, you have a reading comprehension problem. Again, ".... GZ describes Martin coming to "check him out" in his STATIONARY car, then "running away". In the interim he gives location and the dispatch tells him that the cops are on their way.

That's it, his job is done. From this point on GZ INITIATES A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED! The ONLY way he gives further possible locations is a result of his PURSUING Martin....which is why the dispatch told him "we don't need you to do that".

3) Please show me the 'facts' that I am ignoring. See above, and you might also note the link in the post I referred to regarding the jury confusion prior to the verdict. Seems you and Tweedle dumber just can't/won't deal with that.

4) You pretend that Zimmerman attacked Martin. That is not the case. The evidence does not suggest that at all.

You have an active imagination. I don't "pretend" anything, I point to the FACTS. Had Zimmerman kept his ass in that car, NONE of this would have happened. Remember, his tale of Martin coming at him from the bushes was debunked on national tv by reporters. As I said, Martin initially made Zimmerman in his car as some "creepy cracka" following him and RAN AWAY (in Zimmerman's own words). So GZ INITIATES a confrontation by actively pursuing AN INNOCENT TEENAGER. That's the evidence, bunky. Deal with it.

5) by the transcript you posted, it is CLEAR that Zimmerman had lost Martin. So tell us... why is it that Martin suddenly reappeared? If he was afraid... why did he return?

It is clear by the transcript that Zimmerman GOT OUT OF HIS CAR TO SEARCH FOR MARTIN. So tell us, why? I've already put forth my query and summation...if you're too damned stupid and/or stubborn to comprehend it, that's not my problem.

6) All the evidence of the case shows that Martin physically assaulted Zimmerman. The jury felt there was enough evidence for reasonable doubt to exist. As they should have.
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See my above responses, and then continue to parrot your BS....makes my point al the more.
 
NOVA said:
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
GZ describes Martin coming to "check him out" in his STATIONARY car, then "running away". In the interim he gives location and the dispatch tells him that the cops are on their way.

That's it, his job is done. From this point on GZ INITIATES A CHAIN OF EVENTS THAT NEED NOT HAVE HAPPENED! The ONLY way he gives further possible locations is a result of his PURSUING Martin....which is why the dispatch told him "we don't need you to do that".

GZ was/is NOT a cop...hell, he wasn't even an official member of the neighborhood watch (who are forbidden to carry side arms). He did his job as a concerned citizen, and if he was so scared of Martin as a possible threat, then why FOLLOW HIM AND GET OUT OF HIS CAR...especially if he thought Martin was armed in some way? GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers. Only this time his fantasy got an unarmed kid just walking home killed.


Now, YOU can repeat your opinion, supposition and conjecture ad nauseum, but you cannot change the facts or the chain of events. And then there's this: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/07/1...ur-ground.html

You're done, toodles. Squawk away without fear of me further responding.
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opinion, supposition and conjecture ?

You talk about GZ initiating a chain of events that need not have happened. One could easily say TM started that chain of events...
by coming to 'check GZ out' or by running away......

Stop and think, einstein! GZ was originally tailing Martin IN HIS CAR! READ THE DAMNED TRANSCRIPT! As it came out in the trial, this is why Martin called his girlfriend to tell her that some "creepy cracka" was following him!

GZ not being a cop ?....Not an official member of the watch ?...irrelevant

Only to willfully ignorant, knee jerk bigots like yourself. Had GZ NOT decided to play cop, NONE of this would had happened. Remember, "we don't need you to do that".

If he was so scared of Martin ?....obviously he wasn't scared at that point (before being attacked) or he wouldn't have tried to follow him

See above response.
if he thought Martin was armed in some way? .....opinion, conjecture

No stupid, FACT! READ THE DAMNED TRANSCRIPT....GZ SPECULATED THAT MARTIN MAY HAVE BEEN ARMED!

GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers ....more opinion and conjecture

Again, your stupidity shows.....GZ originally speculated that Martin may have been armed. So why, after he talks to the cops and Martin runs away, does he pursue? What was he thinking?

and here some more opinion, TM could have disappeared easily in that neighborhood...he could have gone to the apartment he was staying in and called the cops, etc.

TM called his girlfriend to tell her he was being tailed by some "creepy cracka". GZ PURSUED HIM AFTER BEING SPOTTED IN HIS CAR. Had GZ NOT pursued TM, he would have "disappeared". Your supposition and conjecture are no substitute for the FACTS.

So from another perspective, you're guilty of the same things you accuse others of .....

Only if one doesn't read the full transcript and blathers supposition and conjecture as a substitute for FACTS as you do.

An unfortunate event but the jury heard the testimony, saw the evidence and rendered a verdict....time to let it go....
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Obviously, you didn't read the link regarding the juror reporting confusion before rendering the verdict. I doubt you will, as folk like you have a high degree of intellectual cowardice and willful ignorance.
 
Superfreak said:
No one stated Martin did not have the right to defend himself. But as you already stated... Martin ran away, Zimmerman had lost him. Yet Martin chose to come back and confront Zimmerman. All evidence suggests Martin then physically assaulted Zimmerman.
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To date, there is no proof that "Martin chose to come back and confront Zimmerman"....that is an ASSUMPTION for knee jerk bigots and right wing assholes desperate not let "them" (liberals, minorities, whomever) get away with anything.

Remember toodles, GZ was SEARCHING for Martin....he LIED about Martin leaping from "bushes", he LIED about the illumination at the point of confrontation, he LIED about his being unable to tell where he was because he couldn't read the street signs.

The only one who corroborates your tale is GZ, as he KILLED Martin.


And since you can't show where I'm "lying", you make yourself a bigger fool by repeating a false accusation. Carry on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
To date, there is no proof that "Martin chose to come back and confront Zimmerman"....that is an ASSUMPTION for knee jerk bigots and right wing assholes desperate not let "them" (liberals, minorities, whomever) get away with anything.

Remember toodles, GZ was SEARCHING for Martin....he LIED about Martin leaping from "bushes", he LIED about the illumination at the point of confrontation, he LIED about his being unable to tell where he was because he couldn't read the street signs.

The only one who corroborates your tale is GZ, as he KILLED Martin.


And since you can't show where I'm "lying", you make yourself a bigger fool by repeating a false accusation. Carry on.
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Exactly.
 
opinion, supposition and conjecture ?

You talk about GZ initiating a chain of events that need not have happened. One could easily say TM started that chain of events...
by coming to 'check GZ out' or by running away......

Stop and think, einstein! GZ was originally tailing Martin IN HIS CAR! READ THE DAMNED TRANSCRIPT! As it came out in the trial, this is why Martin called his girlfriend to tell her that some "creepy cracka" was following him!

Of course GZ the "cracka" was tailing him...he called the cops and admitted that in the 911 call, so wtf is you point?...the kid could have simply went on his merry way gone home and gone to bed....

GZ not being a cop ?....Not an official member of the watch ?...irrelevant

Only to willfully ignorant, knee jerk bigots like yourself. Had GZ NOT decided to play cop, NONE of this would had happened. Remember, "we don't need you to do that".

Playing cop ?...opinion, supposition and conjecture, totally manufactured bs from you...

If he was so scared of Martin ?....obviously he wasn't scared at that point (before being attacked) or he wouldn't have tried to follow him

See above response.

GZ called the police...

if he thought Martin was armed in some way? .....opinion, conjecture

No stupid, FACT! READ THE DAMNED TRANSCRIPT....GZ SPECULATED THAT MARTIN MAY HAVE BEEN ARMED!

GZ never said Martin was armed...he did say he had something in his hands so you conclusion is just more conjecture

GZ acted as if his gun gave him the right to play cops & robbers ....more opinion and conjecture

Again, your stupidity shows.....GZ originally speculated that Martin may have been armed. So why, after he talks to the cops and Martin runs away, does he pursue? What was he thinking?
No stupid, NOT FACT! LISTEN TO THE DAMNED 911 CALL !

and here some more opinion, TM could have disappeared easily in that neighborhood...he could have gone to the apartment he was staying in and called the cops, etc.

TM called his girlfriend to tell her he was being tailed by some "creepy cracka". GZ PURSUED HIM AFTER BEING SPOTTED IN HIS CAR. Had GZ NOT pursued TM, he would have "disappeared". Your supposition and conjecture are no substitute for the FACTS.

Had Martin gone to his residence, a few houses away, this would not have happened...fact is, he didn't, he came back to confront GZ and the was beating him as the evidence shows.

So from another perspective, you're guilty of the same things you accuse others of .....

Only if one doesn't read the full transcript and blathers supposition and conjecture as a substitute for FACTS as you do.

You just can't or wont' recognize your own supposition and conjecture in your conclusions....

An unfortunate event but the jury heard the testimony, saw the evidence and rendered a verdict....time to let it go....


Martin’s shooting occurred only 35 yards from where Zimmerman’s truck was parked, and only 70 yards from Brandy Green’s townhouse . It would only take Trayvon around 30 seconds to jog that distance, less if he actually ran....

Had Martin jogged straight to Brandy Green’s when George Zimmerman first reported him running at 7:11:42, he would have been there by 7:12:12. Considerably before Zimmerman (finished) giving police directions to the complex....
7:13:41pm: Zimmerman’s phone call with dispatch ends..

Proven by 911 time-line and Martin's cell phone call time....
 
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