Economic Populism

uscitizen said:
By going to a consumer economy we have lost jobs that create exports. Ie manufacturing.
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Right. I guess we're just supposed to be happy with the cheap blue plate specials until our savings are depleted and our unborn children aren't going hungry not anymore still.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Their government doesn't heed demands, that's not part of their culture, why can't you get that? It's like you're retarded. Capitalism for them is just a path that's been offered to them by world crafters to increase their power. Good profits are realizable when sufficient orders are accumulated by multinationals to make the huge runs preferred in the statist slave driver context. That doesn't mean the system is good.
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So your solution is to shut them off from trade? What possible good could that do the US? It would hammer both countries economies and would not do a thing to improve their conditions, because as you pointed out, the government is not keen on demands. Which is why the slower more patient route is the better option.

As the individuals garner more power via economic influence, they will be able to influence their government. But demanding they do it all at once like a petulent child, will not accomplish the end goal.
 
blue palte specials ? Lazy asshat, you know you could actually prepare food for yourself instead of buying prepared stuff.
 
Superfreak said:
So your solution is to shut them off from trade? What possible good could that do the US? It would hammer both countries economies and would not do a thing to improve their conditions, because as you pointed out, the government is not keen on demands. Which is why the slower more patient route is the better option.

As the individuals garner more power via economic influence, they will be able to influence their government. But demanding they do it all at once like a petulent child, will not accomplish the end goal.
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You're just engaged in wishful thinking. And this delusion of change allows you to ignore what you know is wrong. Shame on you.


My concern is stopping the rest of the world from accepting the cultural norms established by accepting such abuser nations among the "modern" and "enlightened" family of nations. If the chinese want to kill each other with their king of the hill bullshit, let them. We should be raising the standard, not lowering it.
 
Watermark said:
I never said that protectionism destroys an economy. If we raised all our tariffs to 100% there would be a large immediate economic fall out, but we wouldn't become a third world nation for at least 25 years.

China's not crushing us on trade. An artificial trade surplus is far worse for your an economy than a real trade deficit. And our trade deficit only comes from our debt, not from losing jobs and other such nonsense.

Think about it. What jobs have we lost? Our unemployment in 1994 was 4%. It's still about 4%. How have we lost jobs?
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I never said that protectionism destroys an economy.

Please don't try to revise History.

I've been lectured numerous times that "protectionism" would destroy our economy. This is just a lame talking point. The devil is in the details. "Protectionism" is just a buzzword, with no real meaning.

China, India, and numerous other growing economies practice protectionism on some level. And they all have growing economies.

There's only one nation on the planet that practices truly "free trade": no tarrifs, no barriers to foreign ownership of domestic industries, no regulation of capital.

Know who that country is? Iraq. The NeoCons imposed on Iraq they're little theorectical economic theories. And Iraq's economy crashed. It will improve when Iraq takes steps to regulate and protect domestic infrastructure and industry.
 
News flash...!

China has blocked the import of US meat...primarily from the 'Tyson Meat Company'...I believe it is in retaliation from the US Imbargo and investigation on "Tainted Food Products" from China...I suppose this is "Fair Trade"...or Not!
 
Battleborne said:
China has blocked the import of US meat...primarily from the 'Tyson Meat Company'...I believe it is in retaliation from the US Imbargo and investigation on "Tainted Food Products" from China...I suppose this is "Fair Trade"...or Not!
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Let's just cut relations all together. The world economy may take a hit, but we will rise victorious, because of the nature of our people. Our people are artificially restrained by a poisoned elite which has systematically ruined our schools and allowed a fiat currency system which is being manipulated to elbow OUR CITIZENS out of the world economy.
 
Lol....

AssHatZombie said:
Let's just cut relations all together. The world economy may take a hit, but we will rise victorious, because of the nature of our people. Our people are artificially restrained by a poisoned elite which has systematically ruined our schools and allowed a fiat currency system which is being manipulated to elbow OUR CITIZENS out of the world economy.
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Maybe we can reinstate the old "Flying Tigers" and hit em' where it hurts! Turn them 'Tigers' against em...they sure appreciated them when the Japanese were kicking their collective butts during WWII! and if they were turned against em' maybe they would get the message!..or NOT!
 
Battleborne said:
China has blocked the import of US meat...primarily from the 'Tyson Meat Company'...I believe it is in retaliation from the US Imbargo and investigation on "Tainted Food Products" from China...I suppose this is "Fair Trade"...or Not!
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Perhaps, if what china said about the meat is correct , I do not blame them for blocking it.
 
Lol....

uscitizen said:
Perhaps, if what china said about the meat is correct , I do not blame them for blocking it.
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:dunno: Maybe we are in a non declared bio war with China..we hit em' with Samonela and they respond with poisoned dog food! Damn escalation could get worse...they may attempt to hit us with 'Bird Flu' or poisoned snake head fish!
 
What does MSNBC have to do with China blocking meat that China claims does not even meet US stardards. If true it makes me wonder what Tyson is feeding us ?
 
Lmao....

uscitizen said:
What does MSNBC have to do with China blocking meat that China claims does not even meet US stardards. If true it makes me wonder what Tyson is feeding us ?
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Like China has food standards...heck they even pass off cardboard as US hamburgers....
 
uscitizen said:
What does MSNBC have to do with China blocking meat that China claims does not even meet US stardards. If true it makes me wonder what Tyson is feeding us ?
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Yes. Blame america first. i'm sure the chinese are telling the truth, and this has nothing to do with standard trade warfare.
 
Topspin said:
I'm with third way on this one, only they aren't whiners like most dems
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from the third way, a sight which seems to be full of globalist propaganda.

http://www.third-way.com/products/93
Abstract
The “New Middle Class Compact” is based on a longer paper we released earlier in the year called “The New Rules Economy,” in which we argued that middle class anxiety is rooted in the uncertainty of change brought about by advances in technology and accelerating globalization.

Description
Middle class anxiety is rooted in the uncertainty of change brought about by advances in technology and accelerating globalization. We see the middle class as being forced to figure out, cope, and prosper on their own amidst these vast changes. Conservatives tell the middle class not to worry and that they should put their faith in the markets to sort out winners and losers. Many progressives, on the other hand, tell them the opposite—to worry. They warn of the dire consequences of change and promise to turn back the clock or cushion the blow. Instead, we talk about steering change and not being steered by it; about making globalization work for America and Americans. And we offer a series of ideas that address change and help average people succeed.
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Is there anything concrete to their proposal? You tell me how they intend to get globalization to work for americans.
 
Yes Globalism is working great for America you economics moron.
They want dems to get out of the projects and represent middle class working families. $70,000 income $100,000+ net worth
 
Ok. Got the answers. third way advocates a massive federal tuition loan plan and socialized medicine. This is how they plan on making globalization work for americans.
 
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