Economic Populism

Cypress said:
I never said that protectionism destroys an economy.

Please don't try to revise History.

I've been lectured numerous times that "protectionism" would destroy our economy. This is just a lame talking point. The devil is in the details. "Protectionism" is just a buzzword, with no real meaning.

China, India, and numerous other growing economies practice protectionism on some level. And they all have growing economies.

There's only one nation on the planet that practices truly "free trade": no tarrifs, no barriers to foreign ownership of domestic industries, no regulation of capital.

Know who that country is? Iraq. The NeoCons imposed on Iraq they're little theorectical economic theories. And Iraq's economy crashed. It will improve when Iraq takes steps to regulate and protect domestic infrastructure and industry.
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China and India are growing for other reasons than their protectionst economies.

Can you not understand the statemtent: "international trade is not the only part of the highly complex thing that is an economy, and the economy may very well be growing for other reasons".

Iraq's economy crashed because of the fallout of the invasion, like any other economy would. Stop the slander, Cypress.
 
uscitizen said:
By going to a consumer economy we have lost jobs that create exports. Ie manufacturing.
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Manufacturing is a dying part of the economy and pracitcally useless. You sound like the agriculturists of the turn of the century. Agricultural is now 1% of the economy; surprise surprise, no one cares.

Our trade deficit has been created because of the budget deficit, US. It would be impossible for it to occur otherwise.
 
uscitizen said:
then why have we gone from an economy that was about 60% manufacturing to one that is 60% based on consumer spending ?
This does not bode well for the future.
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That doesn't even make sense. Consumer spending and production are entirely different subject. You're comparing apples to oranges.
 
Watermark said:
China and India are growing for other reasons than their protectionst economies.

Can you not understand the statemtent: "international trade is not the only part of the highly complex thing that is an economy, and the economy may very well be growing for other reasons".

Iraq's economy crashed because of the fallout of the invasion, like any other economy would. Stop the slander, Cypress.
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And so too could ours continue to prosper, despite what are called "protectionist" bans on slave goods.
 
Watermark said:
ASSHAT!

An economy DOES NOT GROW ENTIRELY FROM INTERNATIONAL TRADE, BUT INTERNATIONAL TRADE DOESN'T HURT!
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It does when your job gets oursourced. OR when people are imported specifically to put your "spoiled white ass" out of work.
 
Watermark said:
Our net jobs has not decreased any.
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Congratulations! Spoken like a true Bu$h-ite!


The wages and types of jobs available to working stiffs, and much of the working class in this country, has gone downhill. Not everywhere...but in large swaths of the country.
 
Cypress said:
Congratulations! Spoken like a true Bu$h-ite!


The wages and types of jobs available to working stiffs, and much of the working class in this country, has gone downhill. Not everywhere...but in large swaths of the country.
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WAIT! I thought that any job increase at all was good, whether or not it produced anything! OMGZ this is such a realization! Previously, I had gone with your view that creating random jobs the produce NOTHING, like in the New Deal era, was the best policy!
 
Cypress said:
Congratulations! Spoken like a true Bu$h-ite!


The wages and types of jobs available to working stiffs, and much of the working class in this country, has gone downhill. Not everywhere...but in large swaths of the country.
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Have some links of the cause and effect?
 
The wages and types of jobs available to working stiffs, and much of the working class in this country, has gone downhill. Not everywhere...but in large swaths of the country.
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Horseshit, most americans are doing better not worse.
IT'S THE WAR STUPID
 
Topspin said:
The wages and types of jobs available to working stiffs, and much of the working class in this country, has gone downhill. Not everywhere...but in large swaths of the country.
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Horseshit, most americans are doing better not worse.
IT'S THE WAR STUPID
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You gonna keep telling yourself that right up until your corpse is swinging from a public statue? The little bubble of stuff the bankers have given america is not enough to steal our future and place in the world out from under us. We won't be guilted by charges of racism, nationalism, or economic ignorance. The truth is that the gdp is a spurious measure of actual success, and as an aggregate measure, does not take into consideration the actual realities of individual workers.
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Asshat, I don't expect you to understand. You have never stepped foot in a college economics class. You prob pulling this shit from some history text. We dominate you fool, read a book.
 
Topspin said:
Asshat, I don't expect you to understand. You have never stepped foot in a college economics class. You prob pulling this shit from some history text. We dominate you fool, read a book.
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Yes I have. You vacillate between admitting the truth, that the global economy as you envision it will displace millions and anyone without a college education will righfully go extinct (and you think it's funny), and denying that truth, by insisting beyond all testimony that artificial gdp numbers should mean something to people put out of work by a contrived "globalization" process.
 
extinct no, having to live with much less each year than a college grad. Yes
smart people deal with it, it's not going back.
 
Topspin said:
extinct no, having to live with much less each year than a college grad. Yes
smart people deal with it, it's not going back.
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Yes it is going back. Globalism is a pack of excuses to justify a group of elites abusing the world's economic system for their power. It's only a negative moral reprioritization the internationalist elites are trying to force on humanity so their model of oppression and fascist becomes the norm, and they feel less evil.
 
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