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Masons and albert pike
http://web.archive.org/web/20030401...reepress-freespeech.com/albertpikeandkkk.html
Please excuse us if we seem to go to some length to explain what exactly organized Freemasonry with all it's thousands of internet sites, millions of members, and billions of net worth is doing in regard to the Albert Pike issue because one has to be very specific when dealing with the masters of parsing. In fact it is likely the case that Freemasonry provided the initial instruction to intelligence agencies on the most effective methods of using disinformation.

First they eliminate all "documents" - not that a oral secret society such as Freemasonry or the KKK keeps a paper trail. Then they say no documents exist or none can be found. If there is any eyewitness testimony included in books or writings on the topic they deny the books or writings exist, if that fails they attack the witnesses and try and destroy their character - even if they were masons and thereby ignoring their oaths on the matter, and if that fails they attack the character of the authors themselves - again if they also too were masons. Finally they will simply lie or mischaracterize the nature of a book or writing by terming it 'anti' - even if the work was 'pro' but written in another time before the fall of the KKK.

The use of the term "anti" is one of pure Orwellian rhetoric. All those who write critically of Freemasonry are anti's and all anti's are frauds, liars, zealots, or extremists and cannot be accepted. Therefore there is no such thing as a legitimate work criticizing Freemasonry because by it's very nature it must be 'anti' and organized Freemasonry will accept no references from 'anti's' in any debate or discussion of Freemasonry. If per chance the writing was from a mason but was one that was meant not to come out into the public view (in the jacket cover of most masonic books is typed that the books must be returned to the Lodge if the owner dies), or if it was simply written in another time politically - such as the case with pro Ku Klux Klan books that extoll the roll of Albert Pike in the KKK, the tact is to attack the authors. Even though at the time the books were written Organized Freemasonry was more that happy to accept the kudos of the millions strong KKK on all the wonderful things that Pike did for them.

A non-mason may provide quote after quote from old masonic or KKK works and Freemasonry will not accept any of them because anyone who would suggest such a thing today (the non-mason) would be doing so with the knowledge that it would be harmful to Freemasonry's public image and standing, and anyone who would do that would obviously have to be an 'anti'. Of course nothing an "Anti" says or writes is acceptable to a Mason. Logicians term this circular reasoning and furthermore classify circular reasoning as a fallacy. A fallacy is equivalent to an mathematical error in logic or rhetoric, and it is disallowed. It is not a legitimate debating method, it is in the same category as ad hominem personal attacks. Unfortunately with the Freemasons power it is very difficult to compete with the deluge of misinformation they spew out repeating these illegitimate debating and reasoning methods. In crude terms organized Freemasonry's most effective tactic is to "baffle them with bee's wax". Mountains of it. If it will take a thousand websites or a hundered thousand usenet posts to bury the 'anti's' point (which they never respond to without employing shabby cut and paste, deletion, or misquoting games) then that is what they will do. Masons term this 'good work'.

Right: Atrium of the Supreme Council 33?, Washington DC. A bust of Pike can be seen in the distance on the landing of the Grand Staircase which leads up to the main temple room which all 33? Masons must file past. Pike is buried in a secret crypt under the stairway, beneath the bust, the only Freemason to be given this "honor".

But what is the purpose of this exercise? Masons who find themselves on the clear loosing end of a Pike match (it happens but they quickly cancel the posts or pretend the verbal arguement never occured) will say "but even if you are right, so what it happened 150 years ago and has no bearing today, etc". Here is why it does very much matter. Pike wasn't just any Freemason he was the head of the Supreme Council which has defacto control of the entire worldwide masonic movement. Therefore the Ku Klux Klan was an official (albiet very secret) and planned masonic organization with political overtones that foreknowingly was set up to engage in murder, arson, blackmail and other extra constitutional tactics to achieve the Scottish Rites political objectives. The KKK and Freemasonry relationship thereby is as a seamless as could be. From it's inception through the open recruiting of masons in newspapers to the KKK, to the use of masonic temples and halls for KKK meetings, to the rituals, rites, and occult themes, to the high degree masonic membership of the leadership of the old and new klans. Even the present cover-up can be seen to be part of Organized Freemasonry's continued involvement with reactionary politics. They have never stopped, they have never given up. Many have speculated on what happened to the millions of KKK Members that were on the rolls up to the KKK's final downfall at the hands of the IRS in the 40's. We now know. They simply carried on inside the masonic lodges as if nothing had changed at all. And what really had changed? In most regions of the country the local KKK Klavern's membership was indistinguishable from the local 'Blue' masonic lodges membership.

After all the KKK had openly advertised in newspapers for new recruits specifiying that masons were preferred! The only change was the sheets were stowed away, but the political goals and willingness and capability to follow through on them carried on. The letter that the head of the Supreme Council wrote about a Roman Catholic president in 1960 in the official organ of the Scottish Rite - 'New Age' magazine, and the continuing practically non-existant black membership in the 'blue' lodges, plus the non-recognition as 'regular' of black only Prince Hall lodges testify's boldly to that.

The 1940's folding was a complete sham. That is why the desperate defense of Albert Pike. They're still at it, they never went away.
 
And this is what the masons told you?

The rabbinical (dominant) form of judaism DOES in fact teach that the jews righfully run things and everyone else should serve them. The freemasonry movement is a power sharing arrangement between jews and loyal braindead goyim, to incent the goy to sellout their people to the fiat currency control matrix.
No, it was what the sourcing was. The writing is attributed to him with no evidence other than this Royal Navy dude saying it was so.

I can do that about you, but it won't mean that you said it.
 
As for "Freemasons are KKK" rubbish. It would be very difficult to convince the Black and Asian members of our lodge, as well as the Jews.
 
No, it was what the sourcing was. The writing is attributed to him with no evidence other than this Royal Navy dude saying it was so.

I can do that about you, but it won't mean that you said it.


It also doesn't disprove it.

Was Pike an important and influential mason?
 
Seriously, you have to dissuade you own brain from absorbing actual facts, totally disregard actual visual evidence, assume anything bad written about a freemason is true, and then you would only get halfway to the point you are at...
 
Seriously, you have to dissuade you own brain from absorbing actual facts, totally disregard actual visual evidence, assume anything bad written about a freemason is true, and then you would only get halfway to the point you are at...

Seriously. You're in complete denial about well documented aspects of your faggy clulb.
 
It also doesn't disprove it.

Was Pike an important and influential mason?
Influential, yes. Important? Not any moreso than any other Freemason.

However, there is no evidence he wrote it because he didn't write it.

As I said, if that is evidence enough I can run around attributing anything at all to you, and since you can't prove that you never wrote it I'd be "right".
 
No. It's USED TO BE. It's historic. Don't get distempered just yet.
Rubbish. The KKK attempted to legitimize itself by getting members that were Freemasons. They are not one and the same group. One of the groups (the KKK) was desperate to legitimize themselves so that they could continue to be influential as they lost their power, to do this they attempted to sway people they knew to be well accepted in those areas as good citizens.
 
Influential, yes. Important? Not any moreso than any other Freemason.

However, there is no evidence he wrote it because he didn't write it.

As I said, if that is evidence enough I can run around attributing anything at all to you, and since you can't prove that you never wrote it I'd be "right".



Is there evidence he didn't write it?
 
Seriously. You're in complete denial about well documented aspects of your faggy clulb.
Well-documented? Like your inane link above that the only source is one guy who had a chip on his shoulder?

Yeah, I like a bit more evidence than some idiot attributing stuff to somebody with no more evidence than they said so...
 
Is there evidence he didn't write it?
You can't prove a negative. Is there evidence that you didn't?

How about your grandfather did he write it? Or maybe your great-grandmother?

Since there is no evidence that they didn't write it they were NWO starters and really part of a Legion of "Alberts"...?
 
Rubbish. The KKK attempted to legitimize itself by getting members that were Freemasons. They are not one and the same group. One of the groups (the KKK) was desperate to legitimize themselves so that they could continue to be influential as they lost their power, to do this they attempted to sway people they knew to be well accepted in those areas as good citizens.

Keep calling it rubbish. it's true.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030401...reepress-freespeech.com/albertpikeandkkk.html
The above description of Pikes importance to Freemasonry from the Supreme Council 33? shows the claims by Masonic Apologists today that Pike is a "nobody" whose "importance is nothing to masonry", who "no one even knows who he is save for a few anti's" to be a real whopper. Albert Pike is to Freemasonry what Shakespeare is to Drama. One is inseperable from the other. Don't let practiced dissemblers tell you anything different.

Right: One of the most widely read occult books in the world; Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. This book is still given to Masons on being awarded the 32nd Degree.

Pike has been termed by a number of well known Masonic authors as the Plato of Freemasonry, and even the Masonic Pope!

Freemasonry, that is to say Organized Freemasonry practices the big lie technique. More to the point organized Freemasonry has perfected the big lie technique. They term this doublespeak ' diverting the discourse'. In regard to Confederate general, slaver, British spy, convicted Confederate war criminal, Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33rd Degree, Ku Klux Klan ritual designer, Ku Klux Klan Chief Judicial Officer and Arkansas Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon it is necessary to add some superlatives on to the term 'divert the discourse', because that opaque term doesn't nearly come close to describing the effort and tactics it has and is employing to cover-up, obscure, deflect, and divert about Pike's leading roll in the KKK's creation.
 
BTW - You were the one that asserted the link was true, yet I was able to show that there is no valid evidence that can link him to the asserted remarks.

Either put up or shut up. More evidence than 'This guy says so, therefore it is true!'
 
You can't prove a negative. Is there evidence that you didn't?

How about your grandfather did he write it? Or maybe your great-grandmother?

Since there is no evidence that they didn't write it they were NWO starters and really part of a Legion of "Alberts"...?

Yes I can. I can prove a glass isn't full of water by over turning it and the table remaining dry. You just can't prove it in the case of pike.
 
Yes I can. I can prove a glass isn't full of water by over turning it and the table remaining dry. You just can't prove it in the case of pike.
You can't prove it in the case of your own Grandmother. Prove she didn't write it.

The table is dry, so you spit on it and shout, "SEE!"
 
BTW - You were the one that asserted the link was true, yet I was able to show that there is no valid evidence that can link him to the asserted remarks.

Either put up or shut up. More evidence than 'This guy says so, therefore it is true!'

You just choose to not believe that "one navy dude". You put up. You cannot prove he didn't write it. And the alleged impossibility of proving negatives will not save you this time.
 
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