Edwards gives the speech of a Lifetime...

Cypress

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F'ing brilliant. The mealy-mouthed status quo dems, and the bought and paid for repubs, aren't even close to this.



Excerpt - Hanover, New Hampshire August 23

I am the son of Wallace and Bobbie Edwards. My father had to borrow $50 to bring me and my mother home from the hospital. I am here today because, like all the people my father worked with in the mill, my parents got up every day believing in the promise of America, and they worked hard -- no matter what obstacles were thrown against them -- to give me the chance for a better life.

That's the promise at the heart of the American Dream. What matters to our generation is of little consequence -- in America what has always mattered most is the consequences for our children and their children after them. And no amount of power or money gives anyone the right to break that promise with our future.

I have stood with ordinary Americans at the most difficult times in their lives, when all the power of corporate America was arrayed against them. I have walked into courtrooms alone to face an army of corporate lawyers with all the money in the world. I have walked off the Senate elevator and been besieged by an army of corporate lobbyists. And I have beaten them over and over again.

But let me tell you one thing I have learned from my experience -- you cannot deal with them on their terms. You cannot play by their rules, sit at their table, or give them a seat at yours. They will not give up their power -- you have to take it from them.

We cannot triangulate our way to real change. We cannot compromise our way to real change. But we can lead to real change. And we can start today.

Nearly ten years ago, I made the decision that I would never take a dime from a Washington lobbyist -- I wasn't going to work for them, and I didn't want their money.

Because in the courtroom, when you present your case to the jury, you can offer facts and evidence, you can argue your heart out -- and I have -- but the one thing you can't do, is pay the jury. We call that a bribe. But in Washington when an oil lobbyist gives money to office holders to influence our energy policy, they call it politics. That's exactly what's wrong with this system.

Money flies like lightning between corporations, lobbyists, and politicians. We need full public financing to reform the system once and for all. But we don't need to wait to reform our party. Two weeks ago, I called on all Democrats to reject contributions from federal lobbyists. To tell them -- we know that you give money to influence politicians on behalf of your corporate clients. Well, we're not going to take it anymore. Your money's no good here.

I repeat that challenge today. Let's show America exactly whose side we're on. We can reform our party and truly be the party of the people. And we can expose for all time who the Republicans in Washington are really working for.

There are 60 lobbyists in Washington for every member of Congress. The big corporations don't need another president that looks out for them -- they've got all the power they need. I want to be the people's president.

A few weeks, ago I met a man named James Lowe in Wise, Virginia. James spent the first fifty years of his life without a voice -- literally without a voice -- because he didn't have health care. All he needed was a simple operation to fix a cleft palate. That a man in the richest country in the world could go unable to speak for 50 years because he couldn't pay for a $3,000 operation is something that should outrage every American. We are better than that. America is better that that.

It's a stark reminder of our broken political system that leaves millions of Americans without a voice in their government -- a government that is supposed to work for them.

But it doesn't have to be that way. And we can change it together.

We must think big and end the game.

We're all angry at what George Bush has done to our country. But with courage and conviction, with an unblinking eye on the future we believe in and an unbending knee on the road to get there, not only can we undo the damage, we can transform the world. No matter what life has thrown at us, Elizabeth and I have always chosen to be optimistic about the future -- and determined to make a difference as we strive toward it everyday.


http://www.johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20070823-hanover-speech/
 
Uhhh yeah real moving speech about socialized healthcare...

Right up there with King's "I Have a Dream" and Reagan's "Tear Down This Wall"...
 
For Democrats I suppose. But that's really all he was pandering to.

In trying to be non-partisan I can see the appeal of the speech, especially to Democrats, but the speech of a lifeteime I have to strongly question. Politicians saying we need to change the system etc. seem to be a dime a dozen.

Maybe I misread the story but I am wrong to think something is strange that a person could literally not speak for 50 years because of a $3,000 cost? Did he have no family to help or ability to get a loan or to just go into debt? I'm not attempting to belittle this individual at all it just seems if he was able to survive that long something could have been done.
 
F'ing brilliant. The mealy-mouthed status quo dems, and the bought and paid for repubs, aren't even close to this.



Excerpt - Hanover, New Hampshire August 23




http://www.johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20070823-hanover-speech/

What do you think of the latest talk on Edwards and subprime lender,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/10/AR2007051002277.html

He seems genuine in his not knowing the full extent of their dealings...he did ask them. He is going to appeal to this lender on the people's behalf.
His stance on poverty is real, he did set up that poverty think tank. If he has done wrong he will have to address the scorn of the people.
 
It doesn't seem like the speech would really do him much good from anyone who didn't already believe everything he believed anyway.
That's kind of what American primaries are all about though. It's convincing the people of your own bent that you're the most eloquent/sexy/electable member of the choir.
 
I think the point is that people are sick of the way it has been lately.
I do really appreciate no lobbyist money!
 
That's kind of what American primaries are all about though. It's convincing the people of your own bent that you're the most eloquent/sexy/electable member of the choir.

This is true. It was entirely appropriate, I just wouldn't call it the speech of a lifetime. Well maybe it was the best speech Edwards will ever give, so in that respect Cypress may be onto something.
 
"Edwards, a highly successful trial lawyer before entering politics, said yesterday he went to work for Fortress to learn more about capital markets. He acknowledged the job provided a financial benefit at a time when his only other salary was $40,000 from the poverty center."

So the millionare was taking $40k per year from the poverty center? How nice of him.

AND he was bribed by Fortress with their $150k plus contribution.

AND he had no idea that Fortress dealt in the sub prime debt??? Please, that was one of the biggest proponents of their profits in 2004-2006.

As for the thiefs speech... hardly noteworthy. Especially since once again he forgets to mention the power of the lobbyists that aren't of the corporate nature. Lets not mention the unions and other special interest groups that line the pockets of thiefs like poor little Johnny boy.
 
This is true. It was entirely appropriate, I just wouldn't call it the speech of a lifetime. Well maybe it was the best speech Edwards will ever give, so in that respect Cypress may be onto something.


that's what I meant. It was the speech of edwards lifetime.

I've been following politics a lot longer than you warren. Its been a long time since a top tier Democratic presidential candidate used this kind of economic populist rhetoric. In a credible way.
 
"Edwards, a highly successful trial lawyer before entering politics, said yesterday he went to work for Fortress to learn more about capital markets. He acknowledged the job provided a financial benefit at a time when his only other salary was $40,000 from the poverty center."

So the millionare was taking $40k per year from the poverty center? How nice of him.

AND he was bribed by Fortress with their $150k plus contribution.

AND he had no idea that Fortress dealt in the sub prime debt??? Please, that was one of the biggest proponents of their profits in 2004-2006.

As for the thiefs speech... hardly noteworthy. Especially since once again he forgets to mention the power of the lobbyists that aren't of the corporate nature. Lets not mention the unions and other special interest groups that line the pockets of thiefs like poor little Johnny boy.


Give it a rest SF. You could dig through the financial records of any wealthy person, and dig up something that makes them look like a hypocrite. This is just Swiftboat crap.

The point is, that in looking at the totality of Edwards life, he's been on the side of working americans, and against wealthy special interests. He was against NAFTA before it was cool to be against it. He was the son of a mill worker. He could have made millions working as a corporate lawyer, or lobbyist, but chose to represent families and working americans. He was talking about poverty and economic fairness before it was cool to talk about it. He opened a poverty center, which is not exactly a brilliant political move, if you only care about kissing up to the party establishment.

You really have no room to question Edwards veracity and credibility on his core issues - give that you voted for a man, twice, who isn't credible on anything and doesn't even appear to have core principles, other than putting his friends in power and making them wealthy ;)
 
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