Electric vehicles can now power your home for three days. MAGA wets panties

Celticguy said:
a. its the solar panels that make the electricity, not the car.
b. the cars to not make the solar panels, batteries and equipment any cheaper.
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A. Nobody claimed that EVs make electricity or make solar panels cheaper.
B. I bet you graduated from the Donald Trump School of Reading Comprehension

Poor ColicGuy
 
I've got a natural gas run generator to do that.
Even if you live in the boonies and have propane tanks, you can still have a generator as long as the tanks aren't empty.

If there's a good reason for me to buy an electric car, it has to be something other than powering my house.
 
Lionfish said:
Joey wets panties

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Celticguy said:
Your thread title says:

Don't blame me for your problems.
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Most people understand that it doesn't imply 'EVs make electricity'. I'm sorry that your cognitive impairment prevents you from understanding it, ColicGuy.

You probably also think Trump won the 2020 election. Well, do you, ColicGuy?

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Joe Capitalist said:
Most people understand that it doesn't imply 'EVs make electricity'. I'm sorry that your cognitive impairment prevents you from understanding it, ColicGuy.

You probably also think Trump won the 2020 election. Well, do you, ColicGuy?

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Not only don't they make electricity, they draw their power from coal and natural gas fired plants.

Joey wets panties
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Most people understand that it doesn't imply 'EVs make electricity'. I'm sorry that your cognitive impairment prevents you from understanding it, ColicGuy.

You probably also think Trump won the 2020 election. Well, do you, ColicGuy?

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the title explicitly states that they do.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/02/07/ev-battery-power-your-home/

The next generation of EV batteries will feed energy to your home — and the grid

Home solar panels had already been chipping away at the United States’ centralized power system, forcing utilities to make electricity transfer a two-way street. More recently, home batteries have allowed households with solar arrays to become energy traders, recharging when electricity prices are low, replacing grid power when prices are high, and then selling electricity for a profit during peak hours.
But batteries are expensive. Using EVs makes this kind of home setup cheaper and a real possibility for more Americans.
So there may be a time, perhaps soon, when your car not only gets you from point A to point B, but also serves as the hub of your personal power plant.
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From the article:

The average home consumes about 20 kilowatt-hours per day, a measure of energy over time.

That's .833 kw per hour at an average amperage of 3.5 amps at 240 VAC. That estimate is absurdly low.

Here's another estimate:

According to data from 2020, the average amount of electricity an American home uses is ​​10,715 kilowatt-hours (kWh). If you divide this number by 12 (months in a year), the average residential utilities customer uses 893 kWh per month.

If you divide 10,715 kWh by 365 (days in a year), you’ll get the average number of kilowatt-hours used per day, which is 29.36 kWh. If you multiply that by 1,000, you can find the energy consumption in watts that occur in 24 hours, or 29,360 watts. If you then divide that by 24, you’ll find that the average household requires 1,223 watts of power.

https://www.forbes.com/home-improve...lowatt-hours (kWh). ... 3 Home Energy Audits

That one puts it at nearly double your estimate. I'd say for most homes of 2500 sq ft or larger that the usage is closer to double or triple the 1223 watts.

I own a 5.5 KW rated contractor generator, and I KNOW FOR A FACT it won't supply my home's full running amount of power usage. I have to limit what I run if I'm powering the house with it.

My estimate is that you plug in your car to power your house, you've got maybe 12 to 16 hours--at most--of power, probably less, since as the battery gets closer to full discharge it will not supply as much power as it did with a 50% or full charge. With vehicles like a Tesla, you also run the risk of bricking the vehicle doing this.

By the way, I paid about $600 for my generator (about $1200 with inflation considered today). It will run on 6 gallons of unleaded for 8 hours. Let's be generous and call that $4 a gallon. So for three days I'd pay $216 for gas and a $1200 generator rather than $60,000 to $90,000 for an EV and something like $100 in electricity. My generator is a better deal for those rare occasions I need to power my house, not to mention it doesn't tie up my vehicle meaning I can still go places too.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/02/07/ev-battery-power-your-home/

The next generation of EV batteries will feed energy to your home — and the grid

Home solar panels had already been chipping away at the United States’ centralized power system, forcing utilities to make electricity transfer a two-way street. More recently, home batteries have allowed households with solar arrays to become energy traders, recharging when electricity prices are low, replacing grid power when prices are high, and then selling electricity for a profit during peak hours.
But batteries are expensive. Using EVs makes this kind of home setup cheaper and a real possibility for more Americans.
So there may be a time, perhaps soon, when your car not only gets you from point A to point B, but also serves as the hub of your personal power plant.
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Then why can't they last 3 days in a car?
 
Celticguy said:
the title explicitly states that they do.
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The title says "Electric vehicles can now power your home for three days". Only a moron would think that it means EVs 'make' electricity.
Do batteries power your iphone? Does that mean the batteries make electricity? I rest my case.
It's so obvious you're just trying to put a far right wing spin on it to help your argument but you're looking silly in the process.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
From the article:

The average home consumes about 20 kilowatt-hours per day, a measure of energy over time.

That's .833 kw per hour at an average amperage of 3.5 amps at 240 VAC. That estimate is absurdly low.

Here's another estimate:

According to data from 2020, the average amount of electricity an American home uses is ​​10,715 kilowatt-hours (kWh). If you divide this number by 12 (months in a year), the average residential utilities customer uses 893 kWh per month.

If you divide 10,715 kWh by 365 (days in a year), you’ll get the average number of kilowatt-hours used per day, which is 29.36 kWh. If you multiply that by 1,000, you can find the energy consumption in watts that occur in 24 hours, or 29,360 watts. If you then divide that by 24, you’ll find that the average household requires 1,223 watts of power.

https://www.forbes.com/home-improve...lowatt-hours (kWh). ... 3 Home Energy Audits

That one puts it at nearly double your estimate. I'd say for most homes of 2500 sq ft or larger that the usage is closer to double or triple the 1223 watts.

I own a 5.5 KW rated contractor generator, and I KNOW FOR A FACT it won't supply my home's full running amount of power usage. I have to limit what I run if I'm powering the house with it.

My estimate is that you plug in your car to power your house, you've got maybe 12 to 16 hours--at most--of power, probably less, since as the battery gets closer to full discharge it will not supply as much power as it did with a 50% or full charge. With vehicles like a Tesla, you also run the risk of bricking the vehicle doing this.

By the way, I paid about $600 for my generator (about $1200 with inflation considered today). It will run on 6 gallons of unleaded for 8 hours. Let's be generous and call that $4 a gallon. So for three days I'd pay $216 for gas and a $1200 generator rather than $60,000 to $90,000 for an EV and something like $100 in electricity. My generator is a better deal for those rare occasions I need to power my house, not to mention it doesn't tie up my vehicle meaning I can still go places too.
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The average cost of an EV is currently $64k. And I'll take the 16 hours of home charging. That'll do just fine.
I don't have to buy a gas generator and fill it with gas. My Tesla doubles as a home generator for free.

You lose again TAGarbler. So tell us, TAGarbler. What electric vehicle are you going to buy as your next car?
 
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