Eleven rules for debating leftists.

Grugore said:
Only one of them. I believe the others will work anytime, anywhere.
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Thanks.

How to Debate Leftists and Destroy Them

1. Walk Toward the Fire

“The left knows this is war. And they know you are the enemy. You will be castigated. You will get punched. That’s the way it will go because that’s how the left wins: through intimidation and cruelty. You have to take the punch, you have to brush it off. You have to be willing to take the punch.”

2. Hit First

“Don’t take the punch first. Hit first. Hit hard. Hit where it counts. Mike Tyson used to say, “Everybody has a plan ‘til they get punched in the mouth.” That’s exactly correct. But throwing the first punch requires game-planning. Walking through the door, you have one shot – one! – to put someone down for the count from the beginning of a debate. If done properly, any debate on a single topic can be over within the first 30 seconds.”

3. Frame Your Opponent

“I have argued that the left’s entire playbook consists of a single play: characterizing the opposition. It’s incredibly effective. And the only way to get beyond character arguments is to frame your opponent – make it toxic for your opponent to slur you. Then, hopefully, you can move the debate to more substantive territory. This is the vital first step. It is the only first step…There is no way to convince someone that you don’t hate him or her. You can convince him or her, however, that your opposition is a liar and a hater.”

4. Frame the Debate

“It’s important that you neuter buzzwords quickly, because otherwise you will be arguing against nonsense terms that can be used against you. You can’t argue against empty terms. So don’t accept the premises of their arguments, which are largely buzzword based…It’s important that you neuter those buzzwords quickly, because otherwise you will be arguing against nonsense terms that can be used against you. You can’t argue against empty terms. So don’t accept the premises of their arguments, which are largely buzzword based…As a general matter, the left’s favorite three lines of attack are (1) you’re stupid; (2) you’re racist; (3) you’re corrupt. Donald Trump is supposedly stupid; Donald Trump is supposedly racist; Donald Trump is supposedly corrupt. Take away those lines of attack and watch the discomfort set in.”

5. Spot Inconsistencies in the Left’s Argument

“The left’s arguments are chock full of inconsistencies. Internal inconsistencies — inconsistencies that are inherent to the left’s general worldview. That’s because very few people on the left will acknowledge their actual agenda, which is quite extreme. Leftists prefer to argue half-measures in which they don’t truly believe…There are almost invariably unbridgeable inconsistencies in the left’s publicly stated positions that are at war with their actual fundamental principles. Your goal is to make the left admit once and for all what they believe about policy by exposing those inconsistencies.”

6. Force Leftists to Answer Questions

“This is really just a corollary of Rule #4. Leftists are only comfortable when they are forcing you to answer questions. If they have to answer questions, they begin to scratch their heads. The questions they prefer to ask are about your character; the questions they prefer not to answer are all of them. Instead, they like to dodge issues in favor of those character arguments.”

7. Do Not Get Distracted

“You may notice when arguing with someone on the left that every time you begin to make a point, that leftist begins shouting about Donald Trump. It’s like Leftist Tourette’s Syndrome. “Why did Obama blow out the budget?” “TRUMP!!!!!” Don’t be fooled. You don’t need to follow the idiotic rabbit down into his Trumpyy rabbit hole…Arguing with the left is like attempting to nail jello to the wall. It’s slippery and messy and a waste of resources. You must force them to answer the question.”

8. You Don’t Have To Defend People on Your Side

“Conservatives get trapped in this gambit routinely, because they figure that the enemy of their enemy is their friend: if the left is attacking someone, he must be worth defending. But that’s not true…Don’t follow people. Follow principle.”

9. If You Don’t Know Something, Admit It

“Don’t get caught in the trap of believing you have to know everything about everything. Your opponent will undoubtedly know something you don’t. It’s fair to simply state, “I didn’t know that, but I’ll be happy to research and get back to you.” Another side-note here: don’t bring up a topic with which you aren’t passingly familiar.”

10. Let the Other Side Have Meaningless Victories

“Leftists prize faux moderation above all else; by granting them a point or two, you can convince them that you aren’t a radical right-winger at all. After all, everyone can admit both parties are terrible!…If the left engages you on immigration reform, your answer should be that you are for immigration reform. Now, how do they define immigration reform? That’s the key question. But because you’ve always granted the premise that you like the idea of immigration reform, you don’t look like a naysayer off the bat…The conversation is meaningless until you force the left to define terms. Until then, we can all agree on useless platitudes.”


https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/20/11-rules-for-debating-a-leftist-from-ben-shapiro
 
Grugore said:
How is what you said in any way relevant to the OP?
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Grugore: "Eleven rules for debating leftists."
Jack: Legina has whittled it down to just one. Just one rule. Put everybody on Ignore, ... then announce Victory.
 
Jackoff said:
Grugore: "Eleven rules for debating leftists." Jackoff: Legina has whittled it down to just one. Just one rule. Put everybody on Ignore, ... then announce Victory.
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Grugore's thread seems to have alarmed you.

How is what you said in any way relevant to the OP?
 
The only winning is in peoples mind. Never have I seen anyone win on these forums, so stop shitting yourself. Next time you argue with someone, and they have a revelation and say you were right. We'll call that a win. The rest is just delusion because you can't win anything unless you have true facts. I haven't seen many rightists going outside the bubble of catered news, and even the left often use questionable sources many a time. The only other winning here, is in outside politics games.
 
Nice going Jade. I love watching you bitch slap Legina into submission. And taking Grugore down at the same time is ... well, just icing on the cake. Well done! :thumbsup:
 
Grugore said:
Memorize this. Practice it until it's second nature, and you will never lose a debate against a leftist.
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This thread provides some textbook examples of why threadbanning is not only desirable, but mandatory in some cases.
 
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