Excuse me, are we going to say the pledge of allegiance?

Don't even get me started on the effin seniors! I can't wait until I'm one so I can start kicking their behinds without getting horrified looks from people!

Those sneaky effers. I caught one of them blatantly cutting in line at Bed, Bath, & Beyond a couple of weeks ago. There is this really long line, and another cashier opened up, and this old lady who was last on line, makes one of those old-lady shuffle beelines over there.

If there hadn't been so many witnesses, I would have loved to have tripped her. They always want special treatment. What for? Not dying young? Consider yourself lucky!
So going to newly opened register is now equal to 'cutting in line'...???:palm:


"They always want special treatment. What for? Not dying young? Consider yourself lucky!"

Special treatment?....you're a big supporter of Social Security aren't you, little girl.
 
While nationalism can indeed be used in the manner you describe, you are attempting to limit it to JUST that. THAT is where you are incorrect. You are also incorrect to pretend that I said nationalism has anything to do with patriotism. I did not say that. I said that saying the pledge is BOTH nationalistic and patriotic. Not that the two were the same.

You don't even make any sense. You say they are the same thing, but they aren't the same thing! Nationalism refers to a specific political tactic, most notably used by Hitler in Nazi Germany. It has nothing to do with Patriotism! It perverts patriotism, and uses patriotism as a means of implication, but has nothing whatsoever to do with being patriotic. Confusing the two, is a standard of most liberal pinheads, and you are no exception.

Nationalism is the belief or feeling that one's country is superior to others. Many who say the pledge do indeed feel that way. It is based on rivalry. It is not tolerant of criticisms of it. ie... people who get pissed when others burn the flag.

That's NOT what Nationalism is. The United States IS superior to others, history proves that, it doesn't have to be "believed" by anyone, it is just a FACT! That's not Nationalism, that is recognizing a FACT for what it is! Liberals are determined to destroy American Exceptionalism, and they wage their war by claiming it is Nationalism, when that is simply NOT the case. There is no "rivalry" to recognizing American Exceptionalism, it is a FACT! You don't have to recognize a FACT, you can deny it if you choose, but that makes you IGNORANT of FACTS! MORON!

Patriotism is love of ones country and an expression of that love. While a patriot may not like some of the criticisms, the patriot is tolerant of them and respects the rights of others to voice them. When saying the pledge, some people do indeed feel patriotic.

It's not a matter of feeling, it's a matter of respect.

1) Again, incorrect. Pledging allegiance to a symbol of this country does not make one patriotic. Patriotism is again an emotional connection to the country. People express that emotion in different ways. Your way does not have to be someone else's way and it is moronic to suggest otherwise.

No, it's moronic to suggest that acts of un-Americanism, is something other than un-fucking-American! To disrespect this country to the point you can't recite the pledge and salute the flag, is unpatriotic, and it doesn't matter what you say, that again, is just a fucking FACT!

2) So when they called upon the populace to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan you were there for how long?

No person's service in the military has one damn thing to do with Patriotism! NOTHING! That's not to say that some people serve to be patriotic, but some people serve to gain education benefits, some people serve because they want to see the world, some people serve because their father served... it doesn't HAVE to mean they are patriotic.

AND... Some people have medical or health-related conditions that do not allow them to serve, whether they want to or not... are they NOT Patriotic? What about the Islamic nutjob who shot up Ft. Hood... was he Patriotic? He served his country! According to your theory, he was a Patriot!

I am a 51-year-old man, the US Military doesn't accept 51-year-old men, I can't do anything about that! Wish I could, would have LOVED to go to Iraq as a soldier, but I couldn't. I did go as a private contractor. But this bullshit gets really OLD after a while, many people in America are patriotic, but never served in the military, and many who served in the military are very unpatriotic. There is no correlation which automatically ties the two together. FUCKWIT!
 
Good for you. You're always the reasonable moderate who has the conservative position. When you're elected President of the League of Women Voters, you can conduct things that way.
What way? Reasonably? When I am elected President of the League of Women voters I'll certainly work hard to ensure that I act reasonably, even if somebody is acting in some way I consider unreasonable.

Thanks for your support.
 
The second one is a discourtesy. He did not say refusing to SING the anthem... he said refusing to STAND.

When I was in Canada for the winter games, we stood... regardless of whose anthem was playing. As did most people. It IS a courtesy.

That is not to say that people don't have the RIGHT to remain seated, they do.

OK. But my point remains whether it is sing or stand. Sitting during the national anthem does not cause any actual or potential harm to anyone whereas the other four things do.
 
You don't even make any sense. You say they are the same thing, but they aren't the same thing! Nationalism refers to a specific political tactic, most notably used by Hitler in Nazi Germany. It has nothing to do with Patriotism! It perverts patriotism, and uses patriotism as a means of implication, but has nothing whatsoever to do with being patriotic. Confusing the two, is a standard of most liberal pinheads, and you are no exception.

Ok... so I say "PATRIOTISM AND NATIONALISM ARE NOT THE SAME THING"

and your response is 'you are saying they are the same thing'

How fucking retarded are you ditzie?

I even defined the two terms for you and you still pretend I said they are the same? You fucking idiot.

What I stated ditzie is that THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE can be both NATIONALISTIC .... AND .... PATRIOTIC.

It is like saying that the ocean is both WET and SALTY. Saying the ocean is WET and SALTY does not mean that I am saying WET and SALTY are the same thing you fucking retard.


That's NOT what Nationalism is. The United States IS superior to others, history proves that, it doesn't have to be "believed" by anyone, it is just a FACT! That's not Nationalism, that is recognizing a FACT for what it is! Liberals are determined to destroy American Exceptionalism, and they wage their war by claiming it is Nationalism, when that is simply NOT the case. There is no "rivalry" to recognizing American Exceptionalism, it is a FACT! You don't have to recognize a FACT, you can deny it if you choose, but that makes you IGNORANT of FACTS! MORON!

Yes dear DITZIE... that IS what nationalism is. It is its definition.

From Merriams....

na·tion·al·ism
noun
\ˈnash-nə-ˌli-zəm, ˈna-shə-nə-ˌli-zəm\
Definition of NATIONALISM
1
: loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2
: a nationalist movement or government

Now, do shut the fuck up if you don't know what you are talking about. Which is pretty much every topic.

No, it's moronic to suggest that acts of un-Americanism, is something other than un-fucking-American! To disrespect this country to the point you can't recite the pledge and salute the flag, is unpatriotic, and it doesn't matter what you say, that again, is just a fucking FACT!

Again dear ditzie.... YOU are trying to define for EVERYONE what should be considered disrespect and YOU are projecting YOUR beliefs of what is unpatriotic. You are entitled to those beliefs, but like most topics, you are a fucking idiot to think that anyone else has to accept your OPINIONS.


AND... Some people have medical or health-related conditions that do not allow them to serve, whether they want to or not... are they NOT Patriotic? What about the Islamic nutjob who shot up Ft. Hood... was he Patriotic? He served his country! According to your theory, he was a Patriot!

HEY MORON... I am the one that stated a person who doesn't serve is not by definition unpatriotic. The person who stated that was YOU. You fucking retard.

I am a 51-year-old man, the US Military doesn't accept 51-year-old men, I can't do anything about that! Wish I could, would have LOVED to go to Iraq as a soldier, but I couldn't. I did go as a private contractor. But this bullshit gets really OLD after a while, many people in America are patriotic, but never served in the military, and many who served in the military are very unpatriotic. There is no correlation which automatically ties the two together. FUCKWIT!

Well then you certainly signed up with the private contractors when you found out you were too old for the military... right?

I mean the patriotic call went out.... surely you went over to serve?

As for the bolded.....

Not saying the pledge, does indeed make you unpatriotic, just as refusing to serve when you are called upon to serve, also makes you unpatriotic.

YOU are the one who made the correlation ditzie.
 
OK. But my point remains whether it is sing or stand. Sitting during the national anthem does not cause any actual or potential harm to anyone whereas the other four things do.

Refusing to shake a persons hand causes them harm?

bottom line... as I stated, it is a DISCOURTESY... which was his point. That said, the first one is clearly not the same as it is suggesting someone be forced to say the pledge or be labeled discourteous.
 
Refusing to shake a persons hand causes them harm?

bottom line... as I stated, it is a DISCOURTESY... which was his point. That said, the first one is clearly not the same as it is suggesting someone be forced to say the pledge or be labeled discourteous.


Yeah, I'm trying to do like 18 different things at once. Fuck it. I fucked all that shit up.
 
You don't even make any sense. You say they are the same thing, but they aren't the same thing! Nationalism refers to a specific political tactic, most notably used by Hitler in Nazi Germany. It has nothing to do with Patriotism! It perverts patriotism, and uses patriotism as a means of implication, but has nothing whatsoever to do with being patriotic. Confusing the two, is a standard of most liberal pinheads, and you are no exception.



That's NOT what Nationalism is. The United States IS superior to others, history proves that, it doesn't have to be "believed" by anyone, it is just a FACT! That's not Nationalism, that is recognizing a FACT for what it is! Liberals are determined to destroy American Exceptionalism, and they wage their war by claiming it is Nationalism, when that is simply NOT the case. There is no "rivalry" to recognizing American Exceptionalism, it is a FACT! You don't have to recognize a FACT, you can deny it if you choose, but that makes you IGNORANT of FACTS! MORON!



It's not a matter of feeling, it's a matter of respect.



No, it's moronic to suggest that acts of un-Americanism, is something other than un-fucking-American! To disrespect this country to the point you can't recite the pledge and salute the flag, is unpatriotic, and it doesn't matter what you say, that again, is just a fucking FACT!



No person's service in the military has one damn thing to do with Patriotism! NOTHING! That's not to say that some people serve to be patriotic, but some people serve to gain education benefits, some people serve because they want to see the world, some people serve because their father served... it doesn't HAVE to mean they are patriotic.

AND... Some people have medical or health-related conditions that do not allow them to serve, whether they want to or not... are they NOT Patriotic? What about the Islamic nutjob who shot up Ft. Hood... was he Patriotic? He served his country! According to your theory, he was a Patriot!

I am a 51-year-old man, the US Military doesn't accept 51-year-old men, I can't do anything about that! Wish I could, would have LOVED to go to Iraq as a soldier, but I couldn't. I did go as a private contractor. But this bullshit gets really OLD after a while, many people in America are patriotic, but never served in the military, and many who served in the military are very unpatriotic. There is no correlation which automatically ties the two together. FUCKWIT!

WOW Dixie, it looks like you are ashamed of your nationalism, which is the SAME as patriotism.

If it isn't, then you have to declare your allegiance to something OTHER than your nation (base word of nationalism).

I'll be waiting...

Nationalism and conservatism are based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.
 
WOW Dixie, it looks like you are ashamed of your nationalism, which is the SAME as patriotism.

Oh Superfreak? Paging Mr. Superfreak? You need to spend as much time correcting one of your own here, since he obviously doesn't agree with what you said. Keep the retards from congregating under the willow tree, or there will be problems!

If it isn't, then you have to declare your allegiance to something OTHER than your nation (base word of nationalism).

I'll be waiting...

I pledge allegiance to the flag....

Nationalism and conservatism are based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

And profound mental retardation is based on the cocaine and glue sniffing your mom engaged in while she was pregnant with you. Your dad should have stopped her, but he was drunk and stoned.
 
WOW Dixie, it looks like you are ashamed of your nationalism, which is the SAME as patriotism.

If it isn't, then you have to declare your allegiance to something OTHER than your nation (base word of nationalism).

I'll be waiting...

Nationalism and conservatism are based on latitude, longitude and date of birth.

The above is just about as ignorant as Ditzies post.

Nationalism and Patriotism are NOT the same.

Also... your attempts to define nationalism and conservatism by latitude, longitude or dob are pathetic.
 
Patriotism and allegience to the flag represent love of country's principles such as natural law, common law, constitutionalism, federalism, republicanism, and civil liberties. It allows for one to dissent, and even take up arms (unless you have already done so once, for the wrong reasons, and thus used up all your time-outs).

Nationalism is just support of the country because of longitude, latitude, and place of birth, regardless of what it is doing.
 
Oh Superfreak? Paging Mr. Superfreak? You need to spend as much time correcting one of your own here, since he obviously doesn't agree with what you said. Keep the retards from congregating under the willow tree, or there will be problems!



I pledge allegiance to the flag....



And profound mental retardation is based on the cocaine and glue sniffing your mom engaged in while she was pregnant with you. Your dad should have stopped her, but he was drunk and stoned.

Now don't you feel stupid Ditzie????

I did correct him as well.
 
The above is just about as ignorant as Ditzies post.

Nationalism and Patriotism are NOT the same.

Also... your attempts to define nationalism and conservatism by latitude, longitude or dob are pathetic.

Nationalism and Patriotism ARE the same.

And...nationalism and conservatism ARE based on latitude, longitude and date of birth. It's your parochial indoctrination that leads to a view of the rest of the world like it is a drain in the southern hemisphere that swirls in the opposite direction.
 
Patriotism and allegience to the flag represent love of country's principles such as natural law, common law, constitutionalism, federalism, republicanism, and civil liberties. It allows for one to dissent, and even take up arms (unless you have already done so once, for the wrong reasons, and thus used up all your time-outs).

Nationalism is just support of the country because of longitude, latitude, and place of birth, regardless of what it is doing.


THAT would be an apt definition of conservatives.
 
Nationalism and Patriotism ARE the same.

And...nationalism and conservatism ARE based on latitude, longitude and date of birth. It's your parochial indoctrination that leads to a view of the rest of the world like it is a drain in the southern hemisphere that swirls in the opposite direction.

Again, they are not. I have shown the definitions of the two. There are distinct differences in the meanings.

Tell me... what does date of birth have to do with whether someone is conservative. Also tell me what it has to do with nationalism. Just a little bit of knowledge for you... but people are born throughout the world on the same date. There are not days set aside for conservative births nor liberal ones.

Nationalism is not based on latitude and longitude. It is based on ATTITUDE.

One can be born within a set latitude and longitude and be nationalistic while someone else born in the exact same location will not be nationalistic. Thus nationalism is not based on latitude and longitude.
 
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