Felonious Trump says he has a hostage release deal

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But someone @Walt and @christiefan915 and @archives agree with says Bungling Biden pulled it off all by himself, at the eleventh hour, no less!


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Quote me on this: "christiefan915 says... Biden pulled it off all by himself, at the eleventh hour, no less!"


ANSWER, Leggiecrite!
 
If I'd stated that you'd said that, you'd have a point.

Since I didn't, you don't.

It would be better for you to show how trump* had any input into the decision process, rather than accuse me of agreeing with someone that Biden pulled it off by himself. The only people I give full credit to are those from Israel and Hamas who brokered the agreement. Everyone else is tangential, IMO.

*Felonious's self-aggrandizing tweets don't count.
 
lol. However the deal was made beforehand.

The reality: Incoming presidents have far more leverage than outgoing presidents do.

In this case, Trump's the catalyst for the change, even if you want to believe that suddenly the Dementia Addled Moron was effective.
Any major negotiation, especially those completed overseas and between two bitter enemies, doesn’t come together in a month and half, and, it was Biden who made the official announcement, and not via a tweet
 
Father of hostage-“Trump negotiations critical.”
FOX News

History will show that Biden did nothing to release the hostages since last Oct. 7, 2023.

Trump said, if the hostages are not released by the time I take office, all hell will break loose in the ME.

Five days before Trump takes office, the hostages are released.
 
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Gaza ceasefire: How Trump envoy Steve Witkoff did more to sway Benjamin Netanyahu in one meeting than Biden could all year​


Steve Witkoff's meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday came after he held a meeting with Qatar Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani

Donald Trump's incoming Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff held a key meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Saturday. Now Arab officials say this has reportedly helped in finalizing the ceasefire deal with Hamas.

Witkoff did more to persuade Netanyahu in a single meeting than what US President Joe Biden could do in the past year, The Times of Israel quoted two Arab officials as saying.

Trump's incoming envoy urged Netanyahu to make necessary compromises to reach a deal.


 
Father of hostage-“Trump negotiations critical.”

History will show that Biden did nothing to release the hostages since last Oct.

Trump say, if the hostages are not released by the time I take office, all hell will break loose in the ME.

Five days before Trump takes office, the hostages are released.


Someday you'll learn to cite sources, Earl. I hope.
 
It is cited…FOX News…

Perhap you don't know how to cite a source online, Earl. Is that it?

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It is cited…FOX News…why would I care if you want it cited?

Apparently you do, Earl,
 
Perhap you don't know how to cite a source online, Earl. Is that it?

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Apparently you do, Earl,
No, it was cited and you claimed it wasn’t.

Get your act together.
 
Father of hostage-“Trump negotiations critical.”
FOX News

History will show that Biden did nothing to release the hostages since last Oct. 7, 2023.

Trump said, if the hostages are not released by the time I take office, all hell will break loose in the ME.

Five days before Trump takes office, the hostages are released.
Bullshit, then again, it is Fox
 
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