First Transgender Athlete to Win D-1 Championship

AProudLefty said:
Well yeah. I am pretty sure they can figure out the chromosomes that person had.

BTW, it's always this silly argument. It's silly because nobody claimed that just because a person identifies as a male or a female doesn't mean they think they are biologically male or female. Gender and sex are two different things, though related.
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Incorrect.

The lie is that its just a matter of keeping hormones below a certain level.
 
Celticguy said:
Incorrect.

The lie is that its just a matter of keeping hormones below a certain level.
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What lie?

Is this person male or female?

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T. A. Gardner said:
I'm talking about forensic archeology and reality.
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I know. I was talking about different types of chromosomes and also the intersex people. Can they determine that?

As I have stated, it's a silly argument because nobody has ever claimed that a person who identifies as an opposite sex thinks he/she is biologically that sex. Hence the term "trans". It's "transman" or "transwoman".
 
AProudLefty said:
I know. I was talking about different types of chromosomes and also the intersex people. Can they determine that?

As I have stated, it's a silly argument because nobody has ever claimed that a person who identifies as an opposite sex thinks he/she is biologically that sex. Hence the term "trans". It's "transman" or "transwoman".
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Fuck Em...they are what God made em....if this is a problem for them then they deserve what they get....Stupid should be punished.
 
AProudLefty said:
I know. I was talking about different types of chromosomes and also the intersex people. Can they determine that?

As I have stated, it's a silly argument because nobody has ever claimed that a person who identifies as an opposite sex thinks he/she is biologically that sex. Hence the term "trans". It's "transman" or "transwoman".
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Yes, they can. And, as to the rest it's nothing but coddling a mental illness.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yes, they can. And, as to the rest it's nothing but coddling a mental illness.
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How is it a mental illness if they know they're not the biological sex they identify as?

As to "coddling" them, what do you propose to do with them if you are correct in your assessment? So far nothing worked except letting them be who they are. It's the same with gay conversion therapy.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Poliwhore... That is, a self-serving, piece-of-shit that will do anything to get ahead. This clown is the ultimate Capitalist.
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It boggles the mind. So you take first place and do the happy dance because of your accomplishment?

I'm curious about his swim times now vs. when he was ranked 469?
 
AProudLefty said:
They do go through a series of hormone treatments. The rule requires at least one year of treatment before they can compete.
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A: One year is not enough.

B: Some states require none.


Ct. seems to require nothing more than a claim of sexual identity

Question: What does gender identity or expression mean?

Answer: The act defines gender identity or expression as a person's gender related identity,

appearance, or behavior, whether or not that identity, appearance, or behavior differs from that
traditionally associated with the person's physiology or assigned sex at birth. The definition
specifies that gender-related identity can be shown by providing evidence in various ways,
including (1) medical history, (2) care or treatment of the gender-related identity, (3) consistent
and uniform assertion of such an identity, or (4) any other evidence that the identity is sincerely
held, part of a person's core identity, or that the person is not asserting such an identity for an
improper purpose. Although the law includes these as examples, they need not be shown in
every case and are an illustrative list, not an exclusive one. In addition, the list suggests ways
examples of how a gender-related appearance or behavior may be shown.
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T. A. Gardner said:
Question: If say 500 years from now, some future archeologist were to dig up his / her grave and study the skeleton, would that archeologist determine that it was the skeleton of a man or a woman?
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Depends is he is buried with her medals.
 
AProudLefty said:
Well yeah. I am pretty sure they can figure out the chromosomes that person had.

BTW, it's always this silly argument. It's silly because nobody claimed that just because a person identifies as a male or a female doesn't mean they think they are biologically male or female. Gender and sex are two different things, though related.
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So sports should be determined by sex?

When studying skeletons, a woman has vastly different hip structure than a man. For obvious reasons.
 
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