Fluke for Congress

Big Money said:
Last time I checked, I'm not responsible for what Catholics believe. I figured you'd know.

If adults engage in behaviors that could have preventable consequences, is $9 @ month an unreasonable expense?
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$9/month is an extremely reasonable cost for pills if the doctor gives the okay for that brand.
 
christiefan915 said:
I didn't dodge anything because I don't know of any schools that pass out condoms. And I also don't think contraception under Obamacare is free, there would still be a co-pay.
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Go to your local Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS). They will most likely have a bin of free condoms—yours for the taking.
Planned Parenthood supplies condoms to those in need, as do many community clinics and doctors' offices.
Some colleges and teen centers have free condom programs, actually quite a few.....even some high schools.
 
Big Money said:
Isn't that the thrust of Ms. Flukes' "testimony" we've been discussing here?
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Fluke's testimony was that some forms of contraception can be very expensive if not covered by insurance. The conservative counter to that is that Fluke should stop being so slutty but if she insists on having sex, she should go get a $9 scrip at Wal-Mart. Conservatives are ignoring the fact that birth control pills are not one size fits all and that the $9 pill isn't right for everybody.
 
Big Money said:
And if she/he doesn't?

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Then you're getting into the financial problems Fluke testified about.

How much does it cost?
Implanon (the product and the insertion) will cost between $450 and $540, depending upon the patient’s income (sliding fee). Removal of the device will be between $490 and $580. And removal with reinsertion will cost between $500-$590.
 
NOVA said:
Go to your local Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS). They will most likely have a bin of free condoms—yours for the taking.
Planned Parenthood supplies condoms to those in need, as do many community clinics and doctors' offices.
Some colleges and teen centers have free condom programs, actually quite a few.....even some high schools.
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:rolleyes: Bravs, we're not talking about me, these are hypotheticals.
 
christiefan915 said:
Then you're getting into the financial problems Fluke testified about. How much does it cost? Implanon (the product and the insertion) will cost between $450 and $540, depending upon the patient’s income (sliding fee). Removal of the device will be between $490 and $580. And removal with reinsertion will cost between $500-$590.
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Really? You forgot to add that it lasts three years.

Let me guess...you didn't know about that, either.
 
christiefan915 said:
I have insurance through the workplace so why would I care about prices under Obamacare?
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Big Money said:
Of course you don't. Yet lots do.

Here's on example: http://schools.nyc.gov/Academics/Fit...AP/default.htm

Here's a little tidbit closer to home for you: http://www.pittnews.com/news/article...tml?TNNoMobile

Of course you don't. How much is the Obamacare co-pay for a contraceptive that costs $9@ month at Target and Wal-Mart? How much is it for subsidized covereds?

You seem remarkably ill-informed on the subject, don't you?
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In fact it is you who are uninformed mister Big Mouth: I don't even think you know how insurance works, there is generally a minimum amount you have to spend on doctors and prescriptions before the co-pay even kicks in. For many people currently that amount is roughly a thousand dollars a year. So for most people their insurance under Obamacare or any other insurance is going to be a non-starter unless they have some serious problems already and they have the thousand dollars a year plus their share of the premiums to pay every month. This is probably why this plan for coverage of more people is not really working very well, those who can't afford to pay for health insurance are going to be screwed and either have to scape to afford their share of the premiums, as far as I know no one is getting this coverage for free, all have to pay a share of the premiums and it starts at something like $145 dollars a month or so or they are still going to have to go without. In any event Obamacare isn't free, then there is the minimum purchase threshold and that is how much you have to spend every year before the insurance coverage kicks in. Then once you have crossed that threshold you will get covered for a co-pay, so talking about how much someone is going to pay for the co-pay is misguided and irrelevant until you know their whole medical history. For instance, I haven't had insurance for years and I haven't paid a thousand dollars in medical bills in a single year ever. So I wouldn't be able to use most of the coverages that my friends who get insurance through their work have, and none of them work at McDonald's or at Wal*Mart. They have decent coverage where they work but their initial payment has gone up year after year and most of them are paying for nearly all their own medical bills now or a major share of them.
 
christiefan915 said:
If it's not at least partially-covered by insurance that's a lot of money for a student to pay up front.
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A designer bag is a lot of money for a student to pay up front. If you can't afford something, you shouldn't expect someone else to provide it for you just because you want it, should you?

There are always diaphragms, caps and shields if you can't take $9 @ month oral contraceptives.

Or you could...gasp...abstain.
 
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