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We pay for healthcare now. We pay more than double what other countries pay and get worse healthcare and millions get none. The money is being spent and robbed now. There is no new money needed. We will save money. No it would not be free. It sure as hell isn't free now. But universal care would save us money.


Budget for VA, 90 billion, Medicare 672 billion, Medicaid, 3.3 billion. That is about 800 billion start. Then, of course, we pay about 1200 a month foir work-related healthcare. That would end. The money wasted in health insurance "providers' would stop. That kiddies is not free healthcare, but smarter and better healthcare. But smarter and better are alien concepts to meme swallowing rightys. It is just so scary to do the right thing. Other countries have used our system as a model of what not to do.
 
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Nordberg said:
Nope. Universal; health care has worked well in other countries. they cover everybody and do it at half our costs. Our medical system is a device to loot the people. As I pointed out a couple times, we would eliminate the VA, Medicare and Medicaid. Then the costs to workers would be gone. The money exists and it would be cheaper. But then, you are not to analtytical are you? Throw out a right wing stat like it is real and stop.

You are old enough to know many presidential campaigns were arguing that our medical system will break the country. That is from Ikes time onward. Did you miss that? So doing nothing is disastrous. Obama tried and the Repubs sabotaged it over and over. This is not a new problem and it has to be addresed. You would rather close your eyes are scream about fake news numbers.
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Tell me and just how many of those countries have a population of over 330 million not counting illegals? I'll tell you none in fact UHC is so expensive England is trying to get out from under it.
 
Grumpy said:
Tell me and just how many of those countries have a population of over 330 million not counting illegals? I'll tell you none in fact UHC is so expensive England is trying to get out from under it.
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Why? Their budget for healthcare is commensurate to the size of the population. They pay half per citizen that we do and get better care and all people covered. England is not dumping their system for ours. Ours is the laughing stock of the world. No other country is trying to emulate ours.

When Taiwan wanted to establish healthcare for its citizens, theyt came to the US. They said it was a model of what not to do. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...compare-to-taiwan_us_591c4efbe4b021dd5a829047
 
Nordberg said:
Why? Their budget for healthcare is commensurate to the size of the population. They pay half per citizen that we do and get better care and all people covered. England is not dumping their system for ours. Ours is the laughing stock of the world. No other country is trying to emulate ours.

When Taiwan wanted to establish healthcare for its citizens, theyt came to the US. They said it was a model of what not to do.
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Well it's hard to debate someone who doesn't read (I didn't day they were dumping their system for ours! Only that they are trying to find a mix of both private and government.)

And thinks he is more knowledgeable than the leading economists in this country.

So all I can say sport is keep believing your utopian dreams.
 
Grumpy said:
Well it's hard to debate someone who doesn't read (I didn't day they were dumping their system for ours! Only that they are trying to find a mix of both private and government.)

And thinks he is more knowledgeable than the leading economists in this country.

So all I can say sport is keep believing your utopian dreams.
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Hard to argue with someone who has spent no time reserching healthcare in other countries. Damn it, you must know we have run on changing our healthcare for decades. It has been claimed in presidential debates that our system will break us.

Utopian dreams? Every industrialized country has a universal healthcare system, Ours is a nightmare.

I have spent a little time deciding if you deserve respect as a poster. You are making that choice clear and easy. There is a lot of data showing our system is terrible. You are just tosing out right wing talking points. Do you really think our system is good? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d975285475e_story.html?utm_term=.9327033b34d4
 
Nordberg said:
Hard to argue with someone who has spent no time reserching healthcare in other countries. Damn it, you must know we have run on changing our healthcare for decades. It has been claimed in presidential debates that our system will break us.

Utopian dreams? Every industrialized country has a universal healthcare system, Ours is a nightmare.

I have spent a little time deciding if you deserve respect as a poster. You are making that choice clear and easy. There is a lot of data showing our system is terrible. You are just tosing out right wing talking points. Do you really think our system is good? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d975285475e_story.html?utm_term=.9327033b34d4
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Our healthcare is great.
Our delivery system to each and every American is broke,very broke!
 
CharacterAssassin said:
You poor, pathetic meth-whore. So confused that you can't even post straight.

Nothing is free.

The poor pay taxes that feed into welfare.

You have no idea what you're braying about.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-much-poor-actually-pay-taxes-probably-think
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The poor pay taxes that feed into welfare? lol

Tell me, you stupid cunt, where are the poor getting the money to pay taxes in the first place? And we're talking about the unemployed poor, of course. ;)
 
Granule said:
The poor pay taxes that feed into welfare? lol

Tell me, you stupid cunt, where are the poor getting the money to pay taxes in the first place? And we're talking about the unemployed poor, of course. ;)
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Darn the filthy rich always the victim,of the dirt poor!:(
 
Granule said:
The poor pay taxes that feed into welfare? lol

Tell me, you stupid cunt, where are the poor getting the money to pay taxes in the first place? And we're talking about the unemployed poor, of course. ;)
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You are talking unemployed. that is supposedly under 4 percent. Not a big factor. You really hate the poor, don't you? We have passed many laws curtailing welfare. From workfare to staying on for a limited time. People just as nasty and as hateful as you have gotten their way. The poor and ill at the bottom are getting the hate and disrespect that you people have wanted for them. You should be very satisfied.

We spend 1.1 billion a year on welfare and most of those are children.
 
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Granule said:
They do?

You're trying to tell me that unemployment among the poor is at 0%? Every single fucking poor adult is currently employed?

Link that shit up, Poindexter. lol
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That is what you read?" WOW. I said 4 percent. Is that every single person? I have much to learn out rightwing stats.
 
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