Freedom of speech vs Technology

antiall

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There was a time in the U.S. where the concept of freedom of speech meant something. At one time we had something called the freedom of the press. It was considered to be the Fourth Estate. Which went along with the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of government. And generally considered to be the equal of the other three in importance. But it would seem that our new technology has put a stake through the heart of that idea. Because of technology we now have places for people to communicate electronically. For instance, in forums like this. But because they label themselves as "private entities," freedom of speech has no place. There is one forum out there where I can see why. Because the truth to some extent is allowed to be spoken there, the place is practically a ghost town. Maybe if all the forums were the same, instead of a place for the self deluded to hide in and speak to each other, that would be different.

Another blow against freedom of speech happen during the Reagan administration. There used to be a thing in the media called the fairness doctrine. Where two sides to any issue were given equal time. But Reagan killed that. I wonder how the incidents with george floyd or ahmaud arbery (for instance) would have been handled if the fairness doctrine was still in place. Is it time we were honest and took the image of George Washington off the dollar bill?

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Reagan destroyed the USSR abruptly.
Reagan destroyed the USA in a much more slow & painful way.

reagan had nothing to do with russia imploding due to lack of economic activity, due to stupid shit communist economic policies. russia had, and still has, only one real economic lifeline- petroleum.....during reagan's years, the price of oil was incredibly low and russia could not afford to prop up all their weak ass poverty stricken satellite countries, so they imploded.
 
reagan had nothing to do with russia imploding due to lack of economic activity, due to stupid shit communist economic policies. russia had, and still has, only one real economic lifeline- petroleum.....during reagan's years, the price of oil was incredibly low and russia could not afford to prop up all their weak ass poverty stricken satellite countries, so they imploded.

Disagree sort of.
The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
So did the Afghanistan rebels.
 
Disagree sort of.
The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
So did the Afghanistan rebels.

yeah, those are valid factors. but the real point is, russia made the mistake of allowing a little bit of western culture, and capitalism, into their country, made a stupid decision to invade afghanistan, and low oil prices sealed the deal. NOTHING TO DO WITH REAGAN.
 
I wouldn't say Reagan destroyed the USSR. But he was good at slowly destroying the U.S. Though all republicans do that.

Reagan's support for outpaced military spending far beyond the USSR & increased aid to Afghanistan rebels certainly seemed to help deprive Soviets of morale to make them less hopeful & entrenched to debt.

As for the USA similar applies.
Reagan promoted Amnesty, the end of the fairness doctrine & tolerance of Globalist free trade.

Unfortunately every USA president since has done next to nothing on those issues either.
 
Disagree sort of.
The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
So did the Afghanistan rebels.

What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.
 
DEMOCRATS

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There was a time in the U.S. where the concept of freedom of speech meant something. At one time we had something called the freedom of the press. It was considered to be the Fourth Estate. Which went along with the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of government. And generally considered to be the equal of the other three in importance. But it would seem that our new technology has put a stake through the heart of that idea. Because of technology we now have places for people to communicate electronically. For instance, in forums like this. But because they label themselves as "private entities," freedom of speech has no place. There is one forum out there where I can see why. Because the truth to some extent is allowed to be spoken there, the place is practically a ghost town. Maybe if all the forums were the same, instead of a place for the self deluded to hide in and speak to each other, that would be different.

Another blow against freedom of speech happen during the Reagan administration. There used to be a thing in the media called the fairness doctrine. Where two sides to any issue were given equal time. But Reagan killed that. I wonder how the incidents with george floyd or ahmaud arbery (for instance) would have been handled if the fairness doctrine was still in place. Is it time we were honest and took the image of George Washington off the dollar bill?

We have all the free speech outlets we ever had plus thousands of new ones due to technology. Plus, the courts have expanded our free speech through interpretation. If you think you are being limited by one site go to 100 others.
 
What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.

Actually the real ethnic slaughters weren't by Poles prior to WW2.

But, by Soviets & Nazi Germany against Poles.

Like the 1937-1938 Polish Operation of the NKVD against the Polish minority in Stalinist Russia.
Or
Operation Tannenberg starting in August of 1939 against Polish minorities in Germany.

Katyn Massacre was terrible but was dwarfed by Wola Massacre by Nazi Germany or Wolyn Massacre by Ukrainian Stefan Bandera supporters.
 
Disagree sort of.
The USSR wasn't in good shape, but could have continued on worthlessly like North Korea.

The sources who crashed Soviets include many including Reagan but not limited to Reagan vamping up military funding & the support for Afghani rebels propped up by Carter, Brzezinski & Charlie Wilson.
Gorbachev helped so did Polish Solidarity, so did Polish Ryszard Kuklinski,
So did the Afghanistan rebels.

Charlie Wilson was my old Congressman. "Good Time Charlie" whose office staff was made up of "Charlie's Angels." When asked why he only hired good looking women he said "You can teach them to type, but you can't teach them to grow tits."
 
What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.

Hitler invaded the whole of Czechoslovakia months before Poland.

Hitler invaded Albania & the Basque lands even earlier like in the Gurnicka Massacre.

Hitler eventually invaded benign Netherlands & Belgium.
Or
Even his own allies like Hungary & Italy.

I guess everyone was picking on poor Hitler.
 
What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.

What Soviet agents BTW!?

Like Molotov?
Lol

The USSR was among the first of Hitler's allies.

Not only was Central East Europe, Baltic & Finnic Europe divided between Nazis & Soviets in the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact!?

But, Soviets supplied Nazi Germany with raw materials in the German Soviet Credit Agreement & German Soviet Commercial agreement.
 
What are your thoughts on the Katyn massacre. Where the ruskies killed around 22,000 Polish POW's. The Nazis never did that shit with their prisoners. Really piss people off around here. (Or just about anywhere) Say that Hitler was actually the good guy. Sure, he invaded Poland. But what you're not allowed to know is that he had good reason to. Because ethnic Germans were being murdered in Poland. Either by pissed off Polish jews or Russian agents wanting to provoke Germany into invading. Which they could then join in on.

Who are the Polish Jews that provoked Nazi Germany!?

Herschel Grynszpan!?

While he was the son of Polish Jews he waa born in Germany.

Certainly his assassination didn't warrant violence against Poland or Jews for that matter.

Not that I support Grynszpan either.
 
Reagan's support for outpaced military spending far beyond the USSR & increased aid to Afghanistan rebels certainly seemed to help deprive Soviets of morale to make them less hopeful & entrenched to debt.

As for the USA similar applies.
Reagan promoted Amnesty, the end of the fairness doctrine & tolerance of Globalist free trade.

Unfortunately every USA president since has done next to nothing on those issues either.


Democrat and republican are just two different sides of the same corrupt coin.
 
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