CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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Had you started with "Freedom is limited somewhat" I wouldn't have had to smack the crap out of you so early in the morning.
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CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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Going to cuba = REAL FREEDOM. LOL.
Diuretic
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No, it just means you can't visit Cuba without your government's permission. If you wanted to exercise your free will to go to Cuba your government would stop you. So your freedom is dependent, in that case, on your government granting you permission to visit Cuba. If you wanted to go to Cuba and your government said, no, you can't go to Cuba, then you couldn't go to Cuba.
But if you were truly free, you could visit Cuba without asking for permission from your government.
Ergo, you're not truly free. Ergo, "freedom" is an illusion.
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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No. What you're saying is "complete freedom is rare".
Freedom exists in varying degrees, that doesn't mean it's an illusion. You may not be very smart, that doesn't mean intelligence is an illusion. Abra cadabra. Wonder twin powers activate, form of an 800 pound gorrilla, shape of a room.
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Diuretic
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I didn't. I said "freedom is an illusion".
AssHatZombie: said:
Is this like "truthiness"? Is there a sort of "freedominess"?
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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Technically that is what you said. What I meant is that your observations only support the statement "complete freedom is rare"
It is on a scale, yes. Your absolutist thinking on the issue is why you're so cretinesque.
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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I changed my mind. You really aren't free, usc. You're caged in by your own limited mind.
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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You people make me laugh.
Diuretic
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Ah, I see. So there is "freedom" and there is "sort of freedom"? There are scales of freedom. There is not free right up to to totally free,
On a scale.
Okay.
A scale.
So truth is relative?
uscitizen
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My limited mind or my limited freedoms ?
What else is relative, if truth is relative?
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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No. You're an idiot. I guess thats' the obvious point here.
Diuretic
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Is it?
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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The disabling interaction occurs when you overemphasize petty annoyances and grandiosify them into an imagined slave master. For real control, see the fed. WHile I have issues with all things mentioned. I still believe in freedom, relative freedom, and that basically, we're pretty damned free, but it could get worse if we fail to be vigilant.
If we continue with fiat currency, if we move to a cashless society, if we progress with insipid environmental regulation designed to kill economies, if fall for the human management techniques of overspecialization, elitism, divide and conqer, then we shall truly perish.
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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Yes.
Diuretic
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I am an idiot is your response to my point?
uscitizen
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and this from the guy who rants about our joo NWO masters and their big conspiracy
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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You have no point.
Your chains of reasoning are non-sequitur. For example, because freedom is most usefully and usually discussed relatively, on a sliding scale, to you that means "truth is relative". You're an idiot.
CIA TOTALITARIANISM
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It's called perspective. I care about actual subjugation and control. You're pissed about insurance.