Get ready for the new spin

[Big Money]

Desh denies that Obama lies....

 

[evince]

You can justify ANYTHING with that lame phrase.

It worked for Hitler.

It killed 65 million peasants in China.

so you are going to stick with the claim that prenatal care is worthless?

 

[canceled.2021.1]

so you are going to stick with the claim that prenatal care is worthless?

Who said it was worthless?

You claimed that it has benefits later in life. Price it. Not anecdotal. FACTS PLEASE.

 

[NOVA]

that people will not have their insurance coverage discontinued.

why are you pretending that is what is happening?

Probably because it IN THE NEWS EVERY DAY.....millions of people are loosing their insurance...millions...
Don't ask for proof, google it or watch something other than MSNBC

 

[NOVA]

so you are going to stick with the claim that prenatal care is worthless?

Thousands of young women have had hysterectomy operations....THEY still have to buy insurance with 'prenatal care'....its worthless to them.

 

[evince]

Probably because it IN THE NEWS EVERY DAY.....millions of people are loosing their insurance...millions...
Don't ask for proof, google it or watch something other than MSNBC

not really


You see your leaving out the part wehre most of those are merely getting switched into compliant policies

 

[evince]

Thousands of young women have had hysterectomy operations....THEY still have to buy insurance with 'prenatal care'....its worthless to them.

Please prove that and if its true we can fix that

 

[NOVA]

So you couldn't just say 'you can keep your new plan if it complies with the new laws otherwise you will have to get a new plan that will likely cost you more money'. Geez, I wonder why the first statement would be more politically expedient to say?

Funny, he didn't tell us that in all those videos did he....no....instead he lied. He left that little tidbit out...making us believe something totally different than
the truth.

 

[evince]

Who said it was worthless?

You claimed that it has benefits later in life. Price it. Not anecdotal. FACTS PLEASE.

well if prenatal care does NOTHING for the health of the child then its worthless right?

 

[evince]

Funny, he didn't tell us that in all those videos did he....no....instead he lied. He left that little tidbit out...making us believe something totally different than
the truth.

there is only one video given by megan.



and its not what she claims it is

 

[Jarod]

Desh, I really enjoy how you keep these guys tied up in circles all day.

 

[evince]

its their own lies that keep them tied up

 

[Big Money]

there is only one video given by megan.

 

[Granule]

Now that people are discovering that they "can't keep their plans" if they like them the media in its never ending defense of the indefensible are covering the presidents back side by saying "Well, yeah nobody ever expected that and we don't know why they said it". "But, hey you are getting a much better plan, so what are you complaining about"


This is so disingenuous it isn't even funny. First of all, they know that if they had been honest up front this monstrosity would have never passed. If they came out and said "Hey we want to insure all of these people who are uninsured, but to do that, we need to cancel your policy and make y'all pay more to subsidize it", it would have NEVER passed. They just knew that they would have the media to spin it.


First Pelousy said "We have to pass it before you can see what is in it"

now she is saying

"We have to get it rolling before you can see how fucked you are"

It's a damn good thing members of our national government have their own special insurance coverage.

-- the Left

 

[evince]

and what is wrong with this?

 

[Granule]

and what is wrong with this?

It came from your side.

 

[Big Money]

and what is wrong with this?

It proves YOU LIED when you said there was only one video with Megan to prove Obama said if you like your plan you can keep it.

You, know, Desh, fact...

 

[canceled.2021.1]

well if prenatal care does NOTHING for the health of the child then its worthless right?

That isn't what you said Deshy. Allow me to repost what you said

Ok so your a heartless bastard.

Fine.

most Americans are not.


prenatal care is the best way to reduce the cost of adult care.

your not to bright sometimes

So before we go any further, first is that what you posted? And second what did you mean?

I didn't say that there was ZERO value in prenatal care. I am saying that if you are trying to claim that prenatal care has benefits extending into adulthood then you need to provide documented proof to that fact.

I suspect by how coy you are being right now that you know you stepped in it and are trying to back out. Just admit you are wrong Deshy. I actually really enjoy sparring with you. But if you are going to be this intellectually dishonest then I am going to have to thread ban you and I don't want to have to do that.

 

[Lorca]

not really


You see your leaving out the part wehre most of those are merely getting switched into compliant policies

And having to pay more, pay for crap they dont want, or have to give up some benefits to still be able to afford it.

 

[Lorca]

well if prenatal care does NOTHING for the health of the child then its worthless right?

Prenatal care is proven to help children be born more healthy, mentally and physically, and of a healthy birthweight. That's about it, unless you want to provide stats that prove otherwise.